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<blockquote data-quote="Bravo 4" data-source="post: 1298365" data-attributes="member: 8873"><p>Disclaimer: I am not knocking that product or trying to go against Theis on this.</p><p></p><p>Those DA cards are good for mid range, but if you aren't using anything electronic (hand held weather station, gps, watch, ballistic calculator, etc) then you are using SWAG for range and conditions. They are generic and will get you close for the most part. Once you get past 600 yards, you will really start noticing the difference. One day (or shooting location) you may be spot on but then the next you may be off enough to cause a miss or worse, a wounded animal. </p><p>I have used these, and a mildot master. I had guys on my teams that would buy any and everything to try and make things easier. By easier I usually mean to get out of doing a little work (maybe in this case someone already did the work for you).<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p>I believe that using a ballistic calculator & trueing it with actual drop data and then making your own charts for different conditions is a more accurate way of doing things. Best thing is actual DOPE but that isn't always feasible. Depending on the rifle and intended target, I will usually put masking tape on the elevation turret and make a BDC out to 500-600 yards for quick target engagement. Leave the moa/mil markings exposed for precise and longer target engagements.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bravo 4, post: 1298365, member: 8873"] Disclaimer: I am not knocking that product or trying to go against Theis on this. Those DA cards are good for mid range, but if you aren't using anything electronic (hand held weather station, gps, watch, ballistic calculator, etc) then you are using SWAG for range and conditions. They are generic and will get you close for the most part. Once you get past 600 yards, you will really start noticing the difference. One day (or shooting location) you may be spot on but then the next you may be off enough to cause a miss or worse, a wounded animal. I have used these, and a mildot master. I had guys on my teams that would buy any and everything to try and make things easier. By easier I usually mean to get out of doing a little work (maybe in this case someone already did the work for you).:D I believe that using a ballistic calculator & trueing it with actual drop data and then making your own charts for different conditions is a more accurate way of doing things. Best thing is actual DOPE but that isn't always feasible. Depending on the rifle and intended target, I will usually put masking tape on the elevation turret and make a BDC out to 500-600 yards for quick target engagement. Leave the moa/mil markings exposed for precise and longer target engagements. [/QUOTE]
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