fierce arms rifles... any first had experience?

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by Newfie81, Jan 17, 2014.

  1. Newfie81

    Newfie81 New Member

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    A friend of mine has showed me a web site for Fierce Firearms. They look to have a guaranteed 1/2" 100 yard group and they come with a target to prove.

    I've did a little searching and haven't come up with to much with regards to people with experience about this brand.

    It almost sound to good to be true $2000 custom rifle that will shoot 1/2" guaranteed....
     
  2. Drift141

    Drift141 Well-Known Member

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    I do not have any experience with this company. However, take a look at Cooper rifles...they guarantee .5MOA at 100yds. My cooper shot a .338 in group 100yds which is under 3/8 in. Could not be happier :D
     

  3. 300whisper

    300whisper Well-Known Member

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    Their website is very nice...clearly professionally done. My only question is if they are a smaller company how can they afford to make everything in house? Their components listed just say custom. I couldn't tell what kind of action that was either. It kind reminded me of a Howa. Also, a 1/2 inch accuracy guarantee could be had with a remington, savage, etc...with a bedding job, trigger work, and some tuned hand loads if you wanted to go that route. Just a little cheaper. But by the photos alone they are nice looking rifles.
     
  4. Newfie81

    Newfie81 New Member

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    From reading around on their site, which seams to me to still be under construction, it leads me to believe they make there own action. I'm a gun tweaker and reloader by no means a gun smith so i'm not sure if making your own action is a common thing or not.

    They seam to say all the right stuff I'm just searching for someone with first hand experience, the kuiu camo pattern I think would be nice to see on a rifle.

    I will relay the message for him to look at cooper...
     
  5. 300whisper

    300whisper Well-Known Member

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    Snowy mountain rifle company also has economy grade custom rifle for sale I think you can get the entire package WITH a vortex scope for 2,500. They are a proven company and are sponsors on the site. They also machine their own SMR action. Check them out if you want to go custom.
     
  6. Fullboar

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    The Fierce rifles are nice but the action is an exact copy of the Sako 85 right down to the trigger and magazine. The only thing that's different is they have omitted the Sako Tapered Dovetail and it takes Remington 700 bases (which is the same as the Howa/Weatherby Vanguard). I'm all for new Firearm Companies but gee can they come up with something that isn't an exact copy of someone else's stuff. Not only that you can save yourself around a grand (1K) and buy a Sako 85 which guarantee a 5 shot 1" group or you could put a match grade barrel on a Sako 85 have it shoot just as well and still save yourself some $$$.
     
  7. chad

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    hey are a very nice rifle. I looked at them a couple weeks ago at out hunting expo in Salt Lake City. With out a doubt if I had the money I would buy one.
     
  8. slewis12

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    I'll let you all know what I think of their rifle. I have bought a Fierce Edge model rifle in 30-378 weatherby mag. When I called John Mogul actual answered the phone I told him what I was looking for then asked him now convince me to buy yours. He did just that by telling me about the action its close to a sako. Which any one with any descent gun experience knows they are great actions but theirs is better with tighter tolerances. Barrels are match grade and shoot 1/2inch groups @ 100yds which in theory could translate into 5inch groups at 1000yds now you would have to be a world class shooter to acheive that. I'm not a world class shooter but 500 yards with my 270win I can do baseball to softball size groups so I'm hoping for 8 to 9inch groups at 700yds with my new toy with a lepould VX6 4x24 CDS in good conditions. This is going to be my 2014 Montana elk and Alaska moose destroyer hopefully.
    If this thing does what I think it will do with a 30-378 cal. I will be buying my wife a 270 win in carbon fiber barrel and titanium action. One bad part I'll be waiting not so patiently until say some where into August to early October for mine as they have over 800 rifles backordered which sucks a little bit but as they say you must wait for all good things.
     
  9. azsugarbear

    azsugarbear Well-Known Member

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    slewis12,

    Thanks for the informative post about Fierce Firearms and Welcome Aboard.
     
  10. olsingleshot

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    When Fierce popped up on the internet I contacted John and I agreed to purchase one for my self and do a review of in a publication. At the time I ordered it, the calibers available were few so I ordered one in 6.5 Creedmoor. He said he could get the rifle to me by an Aug. 15 ( six months later) for an exotic hunt. Well Aug. 15 came and went. No emails were answered or phone calls. Ninety days later with no contact, I sent a demand letter but no answer. Finally I got John on the phone after waiting for him to get off another call. He agreed to send my $500 deposit back minus 3.5% credit card fees. I got a check in a few days.

    The rifle is made in part in a machine shop in Canada. Exactly where it is put together and who makes the barrel is unknown. Like you guys it seems too good to believe. John Mogul is a good person but he has biiten off more than he can chew. He and his brother own "Hunting Iluustrated Magazine", John does Hunting Illustrated tv show and hunts the world. Having time to run a rifle manufacturing company comes in last.

    I truely hope he makes it but only time will tell. In the mean time stick with Cooper or one of Len's custom rifles.
     
  11. slewis12

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    In the end I ended up canceling my rifle as well because deadlines were not able to be met for a hunt. Then I got hit with $100 restocking fee my comment was, why would I pay a restocking fee for rifle that doesn't even exist yet. Therefore doesn't have to go back on the shelf and wait to be sold or take up space. Dont know him but I sure as hell know how to run a buisness better than him dont start promoting a product until manufacturing bugs are worked out and you can deliver the product in a timely manner. i could understand a backorder but they have to be realistic and you should be informed of the status occasionally not just it'll be done by this date the date passes by and no call or contact thats poor customer service hell cabelas at least sends a email and say hey do you still want to wait for this or cancel it and they deal with way more people.
     
  12. gillettehunter

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    Saw then at SCI. Like the feel of the rifles and the fit and finish is good. As was said I believe they are being made in Canada. The owner of the machine shop in Canada "stole" John away from Christenson arms if I'm not mistaken. prices have gone up considerably since they first came out. Right now they start at $2800. Had some show specials that added the brake for free. I came very close to ordering one, but I resisted the urge........ barely. Sorry to hear that delivery deadlines are being missed. Not good for business. Bruce
     
  13. brentc

    brentc Well-Known Member

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    This is a pretty darn common story when small businesses enter the market with an in demand product and the business side isn't ready.
     
  14. d500lnn

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    I was thinking the exact same thing. The bolt throw is the same. The bolt release, the trigger adjustment, the magazine release, and a three lug bolt. It is identical or very close anyhow. It's a nice looking rifle. Only thing that concerns me is they claim to make their own everything. I'm not spending that kind of money on a "custom" barrel with out knowing whose custom barrel.just my thoughts until we learn a little more about them...