Favorite bullet weight for a 270 & 7mm

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by oneluckypops, Nov 27, 2011.

  1. oneluckypops

    oneluckypops Member

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    Ok fellers Many of you have been helping me on my other thread trying to help me choose a caliber to have built. in case you have missed it heres the link http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f23/1-gun-all-81186/

    My question is what is everyones favorite bullet and weight for the 270, and 7mm? I would also like to know what you hunt and what you consider your max range to be with said bullets.
    Thanks
    OLP
     
  2. trebark

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    Although I don't have any personal experience with a 270, a buddy of mine does and he shoots the 150VLDs as they have the best BC of the .277 bullets.

    I do have experience with 7mm bullets. The answer here is that it depends...

    If you are shooting a 7-08, the 120grain bullets are the go-to bullets as the 7-08 is limited to shots around 500 yards. As a result, it is more about velocity than BC. 120grain bullets are great for shooting everything from varmints up to deer size game.

    Personally, I have a 280Rem (http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f53/my-280-updated-32771/) in it, I shoot the 168VLD at 2780. It has sufficient horsepower to take deer at 1000yards.

    If you go with one of the bigger 7mm's (7remmag, 7rum, 7stw, 7wsm, 7saum etc) you should seriously consider the 180grain Berger Hybrid.
     

  3. pyroducksx3

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    So far for my 7 rem mag I have really liked the 168 gr bergers. Im interested in trying the amax bullets. I have tried the 150 sciracco II, bullet uniformity (bearing surface) was horrible. The 140 bergers shot very well but I wast getting the velocity I wanted. I compared the ballistics with the 168 bergers to the 180 berger (hunting) I didnt see much of a gain using the 180 even the ft/lbs was pretty equal out past 700 yrds
     
  4. NYLES

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    7-08 or 7 magnum, really doesnt matter 140 Accubonds for whitetails, adj your ranges with opitcs. Same for the 270.

    UNLESS your building a Long range rifle then its VLD's

    Off to go check out your link, what will you be hunting?
     
  5. oneluckypops

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    Is there any place that you can get 165 grain bullets for the 270wsm other then Matrix ballistics?

    I didn't see anything listed from Berger, nosler, seirra, Barnes, Hornady. Is there any other manufactures that I am forgetting to check out?

    I am leaning towards the 270 wsm but the what if the matrix doesnt like my gun concerns me. If I cant get any other 165 grain bullets for it then I think I would be better suited to go ahead and step up to the .284,or the .308 caliber guns.
     
  6. trebark

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    270wsm is nice, but you are encountering the major issue in that there's really only one company making heavy-for-caliber bullets for it (Matrix).

    If you go up to the 7wsm, then you have many choices of high BC bullets.
     
  7. NYLES

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    I dont care for short mags, but that dont matter. Id step up to a 300WM and if you cant dream up your perfect load for the situation. I dont know what else to tell you.

    My reason for liking to 300 over 270 and 7mm take a look at available bullet choices. I bet you find the choices for .30 beat the 270 and 7mm combined, much wider weight selection.

    If it must be a WSM 300 rules!
     
  8. TikkaShooters

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    My Tikka loves the 165 Matrix as well as 140 or 150 Berger vlds. All three have excellent terminal performance and exceptional accuracy.

    The 165s shoot .28 moa all day as long as I do my part. You do need a 1:10 twist to stabilize them though.
     
  9. bigngreen

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    In my opinion if your rifle will not shoot the 175 or 165 Matrix it won't shoot anything else, bar none the 165 Matrix has been the easiest bullet I've ever loaded into any 270. They hit game very well, close range light deer to long range elk I've been very impressed with the function of the bullet and the consistency across the velocity range.

    Some chamberings and calibers just don't need more than a couple great bullets, the rest are 7mm's and 30's :D
     
  10. oneluckypops

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    I like how you think, On some forums I think I would have to jump behind a couch after that comment though lol
     
  11. CRNA

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    Exactly.
    There is no reason to use the 180gr VLDs in 7mm. The 168s are right there with the 180s in terms of ability to buck the wind. The only reason to shoot the 180s is if you want to be kicked harder.
     
  12. trebark

    trebark Well-Known Member

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    Going to have to disagree with you on this point.

    BC 168 = .617
    BC 180 = .659

    Run the exterior ballistics and you will see that when the range gets long (beyond 1k), the 180 will shoot flatter, have less wind drift and carry a bunch more energy downrange.
     
  13. rscott5028

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    I don't think the 180's have a big advantage at hunting distances, but I still prefer them in my 7RM. Bigger cartridges will probably benefit more from the 180's. A 7-08 would probably do better with the 168's. My next 7mm will be the 7SAUM.

    While there are a lot of good bullet choices for 7mm, I have been disappointed with 270 and 25cal choices. I have a box of 165 Matrix that I am eager to try in my 270 Win. Because I have other rifles, I only need one good bullet choice and Matrix may be the one. However, I would feel more comfortable if they came from a mfg with a longer/bigger track record. I hope they do well and continue to develop a strong following.

    -- richard
     
  14. CRNA

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    Trebark,

    You are probably right when it comes to beyond a grand. I've never looked passed 1000 yards for comparison between the two. I shoot mostly out to a grand max and wouldn't even feel comfortable shooting at game that far unless the wind was dead. Out to the thousand yard mark the advantage of the 180s is so minimal it's just not worth the added recoil.