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<blockquote data-quote="Elk Hunter 338" data-source="post: 719145" data-attributes="member: 23509"><p>I see were i was totally wrong, i thought he wanted opinions on a 1000 yard elk rifle not a 5-600 yard rifle, my bad. I do agree most rifle combos when zeroed at 2-300 yards with an "ELK bullet not a target bullet" are totaly capable of just using a drop chart, but still there will be a margine of error up to 10" either way depending caliber, bullet selection etc. never mind the wind drift of up to 16" either way with a 10 mph cross wind, and also you have incline or decline, that throws another curve ball in there, Now dont get me wrong i think i can judge wind with the best of them but that so called "evangistic" weather station in my pocket that doubles as a wind meter ( yep you heard right folks they come in a complete set and now in an even smaller convenient size) that i have at my finger tips will tell me the speed at my location wich gives me an edge at judging it at the animal. And the whole ( keep the shells in your pocket to keep them temp stable) comment Really!!!! When i set up a long range hunting load or any load for that matter i do it with temp stable powders period, (weather they give me tons of speed or not) im in it for the accuracy and if that comes with a little velocity loss over an unstable powder so be it. And i actually do test them to see that they dont very with temp swings either freezing or blistering hot, 99.9% of us long range hunters/shooters do this we are not out to just hit the elk and call it good, we want to drop them in there tracks wich means precision, and knowing your rifle, optics, load combo like the back of your hand, and knowing that at 600 yards when i fire this rifle i am going to hit within an inch or two of were im aiming not just hit them period. Now you may be able to tell yourself that the old drop chart and nothin else is good enough, and to "HIT" an elk at 622 yards it probably is, but in my mind if i can do everything in my power to make that hit a precision shot, and if that takes me doing all the load work up to find the best temp stable load I can and using a weather station and ballistic program to make me even more precise well so be it, and i urge every "long range" hunter-shooter to do the same. Add every advantage to your system that you possibly can, use them and get use to useing them and they will become second nature, in the end you will happy you did.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elk Hunter 338, post: 719145, member: 23509"] I see were i was totally wrong, i thought he wanted opinions on a 1000 yard elk rifle not a 5-600 yard rifle, my bad. I do agree most rifle combos when zeroed at 2-300 yards with an "ELK bullet not a target bullet" are totaly capable of just using a drop chart, but still there will be a margine of error up to 10" either way depending caliber, bullet selection etc. never mind the wind drift of up to 16" either way with a 10 mph cross wind, and also you have incline or decline, that throws another curve ball in there, Now dont get me wrong i think i can judge wind with the best of them but that so called "evangistic" weather station in my pocket that doubles as a wind meter ( yep you heard right folks they come in a complete set and now in an even smaller convenient size) that i have at my finger tips will tell me the speed at my location wich gives me an edge at judging it at the animal. And the whole ( keep the shells in your pocket to keep them temp stable) comment Really!!!! When i set up a long range hunting load or any load for that matter i do it with temp stable powders period, (weather they give me tons of speed or not) im in it for the accuracy and if that comes with a little velocity loss over an unstable powder so be it. And i actually do test them to see that they dont very with temp swings either freezing or blistering hot, 99.9% of us long range hunters/shooters do this we are not out to just hit the elk and call it good, we want to drop them in there tracks wich means precision, and knowing your rifle, optics, load combo like the back of your hand, and knowing that at 600 yards when i fire this rifle i am going to hit within an inch or two of were im aiming not just hit them period. Now you may be able to tell yourself that the old drop chart and nothin else is good enough, and to "HIT" an elk at 622 yards it probably is, but in my mind if i can do everything in my power to make that hit a precision shot, and if that takes me doing all the load work up to find the best temp stable load I can and using a weather station and ballistic program to make me even more precise well so be it, and i urge every "long range" hunter-shooter to do the same. Add every advantage to your system that you possibly can, use them and get use to useing them and they will become second nature, in the end you will happy you did. [/QUOTE]
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