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<blockquote data-quote="ToKeepAndBear" data-source="post: 618003" data-attributes="member: 34194"><p>Whoa! I did run the 200gr with the 165 BC and velocity. Thanks for the correction gentleman. I was up too late typing instead of sleeping! Those numbers did seem very solid for factory ammo!</p><p></p><p>Here is the correct data for the factory 165:</p><p></p><p>Trajectory</p><p>Input Data</p><p>Ballistic Coefficient: 0.447 G1 Caliber: 0.308 in</p><p>Bullet Weight: 165.0 gr </p><p>Muzzle Velocity: 2840.0 ft/s Distance to Chronograph: 10.0 ft</p><p>Sight Height: 2.10 in Sight Offset: 0.00 in</p><p>Zero Height: 0.00 in Zero Offset: 0.00 in</p><p>Windage: 0.000 mil Elevation: 0.000 mil</p><p>Line Of Sight Angle: 0.0 deg Cant Angle: 0.0 deg</p><p>Wind Speed: 10.0 mph Wind Angle: 90.0 deg</p><p>Target Speed: 0.0 mph Target Angle: 90.0 deg</p><p>Target Height: 12.0 in </p><p>Temperature: 50.0 °F Pressure: 29.92 in Hg</p><p>Humidity: 0.0 % Altitude: 8000.0 ft</p><p>Vital Zone Radius: 5.0 in </p><p>Std. Atmosphere at Altitude: No Pressure is Corrected: Yes</p><p>Zero at Max. Point Blank Range: No Target Relative Drops: Yes</p><p>Mark Sound Barrier Crossing: No Include Extra Rows: No</p><p>Column 1 Units: 1.00 in Column 2 Units: 1.00 mil</p><p>Round Output to Whole Numbers: No </p><p>Output Data</p><p>Elevation: 1.203 mil Windage: 0.000 mil</p><p>Atmospheric Density: 0.05780 lb/ft³ Speed of Sound: 1106.7 ft/s</p><p>Maximum PBR: 358 yd Maximum PBR Zero: 305 yd</p><p>Range of Maximum Height: 170 yd Energy at Maximum PBR: 1945.2 ft•lbs</p><p>Sectional Density: 0.248 lb/in² </p><p>Calculated Table</p><p>Range Drop Drop Windage Windage Velocity Mach Energy Time Lead Lead</p><p>(yd) (in) (mil) (in) (mil) (ft/s) (none) (ft•lbs) (s) (in) (mil)</p><p>0 -2.1 *** 0.0 *** 2845.4 2.571 2965.7 0.000 0.0 ***</p><p>50 -0.5 -0.3 0.1 0.1 2765.6 2.499 2801.8 0.053 0.0 0.0</p><p>100 -0.0 -0.0 0.5 0.1 2687.4 2.428 2645.5 0.108 0.0 0.0</p><p>150 -0.7 -0.1 1.2 0.2 2610.5 2.359 2496.3 0.165 0.0 0.0</p><p>200 -2.7 -0.4 2.2 0.3 2534.9 2.290 2353.9 0.223 0.0 0.0</p><p>250 -6.1 -0.7 3.5 0.4 2460.6 2.223 2217.9 0.283 0.0 0.0</p><p>300 -10.9 -1.0 5.1 0.5 2387.6 2.157 2088.2 0.345 0.0 0.0</p><p>350 -17.2 -1.4 7.1 0.6 2315.8 2.092 1964.5 0.409 0.0 0.0</p><p>400 -25.1 -1.7 9.4 0.7 2245.2 2.029 1846.5 0.475 0.0 0.0</p><p>450 -34.7 -2.1 12.0 0.7 2175.8 1.966 1734.1 0.543 0.0 0.0</p><p>500 -46.2 -2.6 15.1 0.8 2107.5 1.904 1627.1 0.613 0.0 0.0</p><p>550 -59.7 -3.0 18.5 0.9 2040.6 1.844 1525.3 0.685 0.0 0.0</p><p>600 -75.2 -3.5 22.4 1.0 1974.8 1.784 1428.6 0.760 0.0 0.0</p><p>650 -93.0 -4.0 26.7 1.1 1910.4 1.726 1336.9 0.837 0.0 0.0</p><p>700 -113.1 -4.5 31.5 1.3 1847.3 1.669 1250.1 0.917 0.0 0.0</p><p>750 -135.8 -5.0 36.8 1.4 1785.6 1.613 1168.0 1.000 0.0 0.0</p><p>800 -161.2 -5.6 42.5 1.5 1725.4 1.559 1090.5 1.085 0.0 0.0</p><p>850 -189.6 -6.2 48.8 1.6 1666.8 1.506 1017.6 1.174 0.0 0.0</p><p>900 -221.0 -6.8 55.7 1.7 1609.7 1.455 949.2 1.265 0.0 0.0</p><p>950 -255.8 -7.5 63.1 1.8 1554.4 1.405 885.1 1.360 0.0 0.0</p><p>1000 -294.3 -8.2 71.1 2.0 1501.0 1.356 825.3 1.458 0.0 0.0</p><p>22/02/12 05:06, JBM/jbmtraj-5.1.cgi</p><p></p><p></p><p>and with handloads the 200gr SGK at 2600 (I have shot it as high as 2585 (Oehler 35p)in a 20 in barrel)</p><p></p><p>Ballistic Coefficient: 0.550 G1 Caliber: 0.308 in</p><p>Bullet Weight: 200.0 gr </p><p>Muzzle Velocity: 2600.0 ft/s Distance to Chronograph: 10.0 ft</p><p>Sight Height: 2.10 in Sight Offset: 0.00 in</p><p>Zero Height: 0.00 in Zero Offset: 0.00 in</p><p>Windage: 0.000 mil Elevation: 0.000 mil</p><p>Line Of Sight Angle: 0.0 deg Cant Angle: 0.0 deg</p><p>Wind Speed: 10.0 mph Wind Angle: 90.0 deg</p><p>Target Speed: 0.0 mph Target Angle: 90.0 deg</p><p>Target Height: 12.0 in </p><p>Temperature: 50.0 °F Pressure: 29.92 in Hg</p><p>Humidity: 0.0 % Altitude: 8000.0 ft</p><p>Vital Zone Radius: 5.0 in </p><p>Std. Atmosphere at Altitude: No Pressure is Corrected: Yes</p><p>Zero at Max. Point Blank Range: No Target Relative Drops: Yes</p><p>Mark Sound Barrier Crossing: No Include Extra Rows: No</p><p>Column 1 Units: 1.00 in Column 2 Units: 1.00 mil</p><p>Round Output to Whole Numbers: No </p><p>Output Data</p><p>Elevation: 1.318 mil Windage: 0.000 mil</p><p>Atmospheric Density: 0.05780 lb/ft³ Speed of Sound: 1106.7 ft/s</p><p>Maximum PBR: 335 yd Maximum PBR Zero: 284 yd</p><p>Range of Maximum Height: 158 yd Energy at Maximum PBR: 2165.3 ft•lbs</p><p>Sectional Density: 0.301 lb/in² </p><p>Calculated Table</p><p>Range Drop Drop Windage Windage Velocity Mach Energy Time Lead Lead</p><p>(yd) (in) (mil) (in) (mil) (ft/s) (none) (ft•lbs) (s) (in) (mil)</p><p>0 -2.1 *** 0.0 *** 2604.1 2.353 3011.1 0.000 0.0 ***</p><p>50 -0.4 -0.2 0.1 0.1 2542.7 2.298 2870.7 0.058 0.0 0.0</p><p>100 -0.0 -0.0 0.5 0.1 2482.1 2.243 2735.5 0.118 0.0 0.0</p><p>150 -1.0 -0.2 1.1 0.2 2422.4 2.189 2605.4 0.179 0.0 0.0</p><p>200 -3.5 -0.5 2.0 0.3 2363.4 2.136 2480.2 0.242 0.0 0.0</p><p>250 -7.6 -0.8 3.2 0.4 2305.3 2.083 2359.7 0.306 0.0 0.0</p><p>300 -13.3 -1.2 4.6 0.4 2248.0 2.031 2243.8 0.372 0.0 0.0</p><p>350 -20.7 -1.6 6.4 0.5 2191.4 1.980 2132.3 0.440 0.0 0.0</p><p>400 -30.0 -2.1 8.5 0.6 2135.7 1.930 2025.2 0.509 0.0 0.0</p><p>450 -41.1 -2.5 10.9 0.7 2080.7 1.880 1922.3 0.580 0.0 0.0</p><p>500 -54.3 -3.0 13.6 0.8 2026.6 1.831 1823.6 0.653 0.0 0.0</p><p>550 -69.5 -3.5 16.6 0.8 1973.3 1.783 1728.9 0.728 0.0 0.0</p><p>600 -87.0 -4.0 20.1 0.9 1920.9 1.736 1638.3 0.805 0.0 0.0</p><p>650 -106.9 -4.6 23.9 1.0 1869.3 1.689 1551.5 0.884 0.0 0.0</p><p>700 -129.2 -5.1 28.0 1.1 1818.7 1.643 1468.6 0.966 0.0 0.0</p><p>750 -154.2 -5.7 32.6 1.2 1769.0 1.598 1389.4 1.049 0.0 0.0</p><p>800 -181.9 -6.3 37.6 1.3 1720.3 1.554 1314.0 1.135 0.0 0.0</p><p>850 -212.6 -6.9 43.0 1.4 1672.6 1.511 1242.2 1.224 0.0 0.0</p><p>900 -246.4 -7.6 48.9 1.5 1626.0 1.469 1173.9 1.315 0.0 0.0</p><p>950 -283.4 -8.3 55.3 1.6 1580.5 1.428 1109.2 1.408 0.0 0.0</p><p>1000 -324.0 -9.0 62.1 1.7 1536.2 1.388 1047.9 1.505 0.0 0.0</p><p>22/02/12 05:11, JBM/jbmtraj-5.1.cgi</p><p></p><p>If you decide to handload, 1468 of energy at 700 yards, 8000 feet, and 50 degrees.</p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong, the magnums are great for killing stuff a long ways out. It was mainly his being new to long range shooting that prompted the non-magnum recommendation. </p><p></p><p>Thanks again for the correction!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ToKeepAndBear, post: 618003, member: 34194"] Whoa! I did run the 200gr with the 165 BC and velocity. Thanks for the correction gentleman. I was up too late typing instead of sleeping! Those numbers did seem very solid for factory ammo! Here is the correct data for the factory 165: Trajectory Input Data Ballistic Coefficient: 0.447 G1 Caliber: 0.308 in Bullet Weight: 165.0 gr Muzzle Velocity: 2840.0 ft/s Distance to Chronograph: 10.0 ft Sight Height: 2.10 in Sight Offset: 0.00 in Zero Height: 0.00 in Zero Offset: 0.00 in Windage: 0.000 mil Elevation: 0.000 mil Line Of Sight Angle: 0.0 deg Cant Angle: 0.0 deg Wind Speed: 10.0 mph Wind Angle: 90.0 deg Target Speed: 0.0 mph Target Angle: 90.0 deg Target Height: 12.0 in Temperature: 50.0 °F Pressure: 29.92 in Hg Humidity: 0.0 % Altitude: 8000.0 ft Vital Zone Radius: 5.0 in Std. Atmosphere at Altitude: No Pressure is Corrected: Yes Zero at Max. Point Blank Range: No Target Relative Drops: Yes Mark Sound Barrier Crossing: No Include Extra Rows: No Column 1 Units: 1.00 in Column 2 Units: 1.00 mil Round Output to Whole Numbers: No Output Data Elevation: 1.203 mil Windage: 0.000 mil Atmospheric Density: 0.05780 lb/ft³ Speed of Sound: 1106.7 ft/s Maximum PBR: 358 yd Maximum PBR Zero: 305 yd Range of Maximum Height: 170 yd Energy at Maximum PBR: 1945.2 ft•lbs Sectional Density: 0.248 lb/in² Calculated Table Range Drop Drop Windage Windage Velocity Mach Energy Time Lead Lead (yd) (in) (mil) (in) (mil) (ft/s) (none) (ft•lbs) (s) (in) (mil) 0 -2.1 *** 0.0 *** 2845.4 2.571 2965.7 0.000 0.0 *** 50 -0.5 -0.3 0.1 0.1 2765.6 2.499 2801.8 0.053 0.0 0.0 100 -0.0 -0.0 0.5 0.1 2687.4 2.428 2645.5 0.108 0.0 0.0 150 -0.7 -0.1 1.2 0.2 2610.5 2.359 2496.3 0.165 0.0 0.0 200 -2.7 -0.4 2.2 0.3 2534.9 2.290 2353.9 0.223 0.0 0.0 250 -6.1 -0.7 3.5 0.4 2460.6 2.223 2217.9 0.283 0.0 0.0 300 -10.9 -1.0 5.1 0.5 2387.6 2.157 2088.2 0.345 0.0 0.0 350 -17.2 -1.4 7.1 0.6 2315.8 2.092 1964.5 0.409 0.0 0.0 400 -25.1 -1.7 9.4 0.7 2245.2 2.029 1846.5 0.475 0.0 0.0 450 -34.7 -2.1 12.0 0.7 2175.8 1.966 1734.1 0.543 0.0 0.0 500 -46.2 -2.6 15.1 0.8 2107.5 1.904 1627.1 0.613 0.0 0.0 550 -59.7 -3.0 18.5 0.9 2040.6 1.844 1525.3 0.685 0.0 0.0 600 -75.2 -3.5 22.4 1.0 1974.8 1.784 1428.6 0.760 0.0 0.0 650 -93.0 -4.0 26.7 1.1 1910.4 1.726 1336.9 0.837 0.0 0.0 700 -113.1 -4.5 31.5 1.3 1847.3 1.669 1250.1 0.917 0.0 0.0 750 -135.8 -5.0 36.8 1.4 1785.6 1.613 1168.0 1.000 0.0 0.0 800 -161.2 -5.6 42.5 1.5 1725.4 1.559 1090.5 1.085 0.0 0.0 850 -189.6 -6.2 48.8 1.6 1666.8 1.506 1017.6 1.174 0.0 0.0 900 -221.0 -6.8 55.7 1.7 1609.7 1.455 949.2 1.265 0.0 0.0 950 -255.8 -7.5 63.1 1.8 1554.4 1.405 885.1 1.360 0.0 0.0 1000 -294.3 -8.2 71.1 2.0 1501.0 1.356 825.3 1.458 0.0 0.0 22/02/12 05:06, JBM/jbmtraj-5.1.cgi and with handloads the 200gr SGK at 2600 (I have shot it as high as 2585 (Oehler 35p)in a 20 in barrel) Ballistic Coefficient: 0.550 G1 Caliber: 0.308 in Bullet Weight: 200.0 gr Muzzle Velocity: 2600.0 ft/s Distance to Chronograph: 10.0 ft Sight Height: 2.10 in Sight Offset: 0.00 in Zero Height: 0.00 in Zero Offset: 0.00 in Windage: 0.000 mil Elevation: 0.000 mil Line Of Sight Angle: 0.0 deg Cant Angle: 0.0 deg Wind Speed: 10.0 mph Wind Angle: 90.0 deg Target Speed: 0.0 mph Target Angle: 90.0 deg Target Height: 12.0 in Temperature: 50.0 °F Pressure: 29.92 in Hg Humidity: 0.0 % Altitude: 8000.0 ft Vital Zone Radius: 5.0 in Std. Atmosphere at Altitude: No Pressure is Corrected: Yes Zero at Max. Point Blank Range: No Target Relative Drops: Yes Mark Sound Barrier Crossing: No Include Extra Rows: No Column 1 Units: 1.00 in Column 2 Units: 1.00 mil Round Output to Whole Numbers: No Output Data Elevation: 1.318 mil Windage: 0.000 mil Atmospheric Density: 0.05780 lb/ft³ Speed of Sound: 1106.7 ft/s Maximum PBR: 335 yd Maximum PBR Zero: 284 yd Range of Maximum Height: 158 yd Energy at Maximum PBR: 2165.3 ft•lbs Sectional Density: 0.301 lb/in² Calculated Table Range Drop Drop Windage Windage Velocity Mach Energy Time Lead Lead (yd) (in) (mil) (in) (mil) (ft/s) (none) (ft•lbs) (s) (in) (mil) 0 -2.1 *** 0.0 *** 2604.1 2.353 3011.1 0.000 0.0 *** 50 -0.4 -0.2 0.1 0.1 2542.7 2.298 2870.7 0.058 0.0 0.0 100 -0.0 -0.0 0.5 0.1 2482.1 2.243 2735.5 0.118 0.0 0.0 150 -1.0 -0.2 1.1 0.2 2422.4 2.189 2605.4 0.179 0.0 0.0 200 -3.5 -0.5 2.0 0.3 2363.4 2.136 2480.2 0.242 0.0 0.0 250 -7.6 -0.8 3.2 0.4 2305.3 2.083 2359.7 0.306 0.0 0.0 300 -13.3 -1.2 4.6 0.4 2248.0 2.031 2243.8 0.372 0.0 0.0 350 -20.7 -1.6 6.4 0.5 2191.4 1.980 2132.3 0.440 0.0 0.0 400 -30.0 -2.1 8.5 0.6 2135.7 1.930 2025.2 0.509 0.0 0.0 450 -41.1 -2.5 10.9 0.7 2080.7 1.880 1922.3 0.580 0.0 0.0 500 -54.3 -3.0 13.6 0.8 2026.6 1.831 1823.6 0.653 0.0 0.0 550 -69.5 -3.5 16.6 0.8 1973.3 1.783 1728.9 0.728 0.0 0.0 600 -87.0 -4.0 20.1 0.9 1920.9 1.736 1638.3 0.805 0.0 0.0 650 -106.9 -4.6 23.9 1.0 1869.3 1.689 1551.5 0.884 0.0 0.0 700 -129.2 -5.1 28.0 1.1 1818.7 1.643 1468.6 0.966 0.0 0.0 750 -154.2 -5.7 32.6 1.2 1769.0 1.598 1389.4 1.049 0.0 0.0 800 -181.9 -6.3 37.6 1.3 1720.3 1.554 1314.0 1.135 0.0 0.0 850 -212.6 -6.9 43.0 1.4 1672.6 1.511 1242.2 1.224 0.0 0.0 900 -246.4 -7.6 48.9 1.5 1626.0 1.469 1173.9 1.315 0.0 0.0 950 -283.4 -8.3 55.3 1.6 1580.5 1.428 1109.2 1.408 0.0 0.0 1000 -324.0 -9.0 62.1 1.7 1536.2 1.388 1047.9 1.505 0.0 0.0 22/02/12 05:11, JBM/jbmtraj-5.1.cgi If you decide to handload, 1468 of energy at 700 yards, 8000 feet, and 50 degrees. Don't get me wrong, the magnums are great for killing stuff a long ways out. It was mainly his being new to long range shooting that prompted the non-magnum recommendation. Thanks again for the correction! [/QUOTE]
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