Effective Range of New .223 Rem

Discussion in 'Coyote Hunting - From 10 Yards to over 1,000 Yards' started by 1100 Remington Man, Jan 8, 2011.

  1. 1100 Remington Man

    1100 Remington Man Well-Known Member

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    gun) I have a new .223 Rem in Remington 700 SFII with 26 inch barrel with 1 in 12 twist and Hornady list there new 53 gr V Max superformance load at 3465 FPS in a 24 inch barrel. This new bullet has a listed B.C. of ,290 sounds like a great load. I plan on reloading this bullet 53 gr V Max will I be able to make this speed with H335 ? What kind of effective range on coyotes should I get for DRT ?
     
  2. coyotemaster

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    Hopefully you are planning to pull the 53's and reload them because no one seems to stock them and all contacts say they are not yet offered as componets. I would love some for the Swift!! BC is much higher than 50's --55's.
     

  3. Mark Brendemuehl

    Mark Brendemuehl Active Member

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    Effective range? Let me know when you find out. I have had some great kills with a .223, and I have had days of frustration with it too. The first one I shot with a .223 was facing me at 110 yards. I shot through the breast plate at a downward angle (slight) and ripped a massive hole through her. She still ran 40 yards or so before my partner flattened her with a follow up shot.
    I have had others that I folded like a cheap camp chair.
    I shoot 55 grain Vmax. Very accurate, and make a hell of a hole. But... I don't know.
    Mark
     
  4. strombeckj

    strombeckj Well-Known Member

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    I have 200 of the 53grs from grafs I will be loading up this month for a .223 w/1:12 stock savage and also .223 AI w/1:14 Krieger. The AI is mine and I have taken yotes past 400 yards with 28.5gr’s of XBR under a 50gr blitz. I will be trying x-terminator, 322, 335, XBR, benchmark and varget. With the high BC I should get 22-250 like performance with the AI. Hornady does not recommend these bullets for the big .22 cal’s. I hope I can get them to shoot. I will keep every posted with results.
     
  5. SBruce

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    I don't know if you'll get that velocity with any other powder. Supposedly, the Superperformance stuff is a special blend.

    I'd say 400 to 500 yds on coyotes if you can call the wind right. I've not had any problems taking down 500 yd coyotes with 53's going 3600'/sec. out of a Swift.
     
  6. strombeckj

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    I find it funny that Hodgdon does not recommend the superperformace powder for .223 and for that matter light .22 cals even in 22-250. They have no recommended loads under a 60gr in 22-250. ( yet they have a factory load they are selling) But you should be able to get 26grs to 26.5 of 335grs in some good .223 brass. I bet you’ll get close to 3400. A compressed load of varget my be better, it seems to pull away from some of the other powders when you start to load above 50 gr bullets. I have 3 new loads sitting for a few days of compressed varget for my .223 AI. 29.3, 29.0 & 29.7 at a OAL of 2.36.need to make sure they do not push out. The 53gr is .829 in length while a 55gr v-max is .812 so depending on how deep you seat them they may eat up some case space.
     
  7. 1100 Remington Man

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    gun) Here some thing I ran into a old book I have by Bob Hagel Game Loads & Practical Ballistics For the American Hunter. On page 48 .223 Rem Remington Model 788 24" bbl R-P cases weight 95gr. Remington 7 1/2 primer Temp 70 F 52gr. Rem Bench Rest HP H335 28gr. MV 3519 FPS. These loads were developed for bolt action rifles and were near maximum in the test rifle . Thay should be approached from 1-2 gr. below. They are not recommended for use in semiautoloading Rifles... He also talks elsewhere in his book how each rifle is an individual and how the Reloading Manuals do not show as hot of loads as he has worked up as it should be and when changing lots # of bullets primers or powder start over... A great book by the way. with lots of good info. I can't wait till I get my reloading dies and start loading my scope mounts are on the way from SWFA can't wait to get this rifle set up and start shooting.
     
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  8. strombeckj

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    He is correct, every rifle is different. Some will allow for higher pressures and some less than what a book will tell you. You will just need start at a modest load and work your way up until you see signs of too much pressure, my #1 sign is bolt lift. You will also find a fine line between accuracy and speed. I have been able to push my .223AI at 22-250 like speeds but at it seems to lose accuracy. 335 is a great powder, however I find temp effects it to much in most cases for my taste. My new favorite is 8208 XBR it’s extruded and I see less variance with these types of powder then others. I’ll hunt yotes in 30 F. and PD’s in 90 F. And have noticed loss/gain in FPS with 335 along with increase/decrease in pressure. But learning all of this is part of what makes it fun for me.