Last Friday night about 1/2 hour before dark a nice tall 8 point buck came out at 430 yards to see the 5 does that were feeding . So i dialed up 6.75 and no wind for a change , the buck was facing me head on then quartered slightly to his right so i centered the crosshairs on his left shoulder figured i had 8 inches of room for error and still hit bone and let her fly.gun) Even with the DE brake i lost sight of him from the recoil but heard the impact of the bullet into meat and he was gone . NO blood , hair , nothin when i finally found him about 450 yards away i had hit several inches behind the shoulder and the bullet passed between 2 ribs , so there was a pencil hole goin in and a pencil hole coming out the opposite side in front of back leg about 8 inches . Anyway pencil hole in left lung thru diaphragm and all the smelly stuff and out . I believe you have to hit a bone to make this a truly awesome round and for me thats not an absolute . So for me for now 6.5 is still king for deer . Anybody else have this problem ? Or recommend a lighter more expansive bullet and load for 338 Edge? I gues i left out i am shooting 300 gain begers at 2790fps.