Does anyone know this headstamp

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  1. thumbs

    thumbs Well-Known Member

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    I just got a bunch of 223 brass mostly LC. There are a number of brass mixed in with the headstamp of TAA 09 along with the nato marking. Does anyone know who makes the TAA 09 brass? And if so what differences in this brass is there compared to the LC brass? I have them separated now but don't know if they are really the same as the LC or not.

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  2. RockZ

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    TAA Headstamp=205th Arsenal Taiwan
    They should be the same spec as LC and WCC.
    All three are the same NATO spec sponsored by the USA.
     

  3. 280 Man

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    What Rock said.....
     
  4. MudRunner2005

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    It stands for "Tel Aviv Arsenal". It's imported ammo from Israel.
     
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    I found a site that had a bunch of head stamp locations.. One place had two TA head stamp one said taiwan and the other was tel aviv but I couldn't find a TAA listing.
    Now the question is will the TAA and the LC load exactly the same and shoot the same? Do both have the same internal volume?
     
  6. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    You'll either have to measure that yourself, or just pick one and stick with it...
     
  7. RockZ

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    yep according to that they are Taiwan. I read it all and to tell you the truth the implications scare the hell out of me.
     
  9. thumbs

    thumbs Well-Known Member

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    Did the volume weight check between the TAA and the LC.


    TAA 09—LC Volume
    TAA Volume

    Dry Wet

    1. 100gr 130gr

    2. 98.4 129.7

    3. 99.3 129.1

    4. 98.4 129.2

    5. 99 129.5

    Average Weight 99.2gr dry 129.5gr wet

    Average Volume 30.3gr Water



    Lake City Volume

    Dry Wet

    1. 96gr 127gr

    2. 96.4 127.7

    3. 96 127.2

    4. 95.7 127.2

    5. 95.8 127.3

    Average Weight 96.02gr dry 127.28gr wet

    Average Volume 31.26gr Water

    So it appears there is about a grain difference the LC being a bit more volume than the TAA. Not exactly sure what this means or how much difference it may make if loaded all the same but these are the numbers I got. Your numbers may differ and mine should not be taken as gospel. Before you do anything do your own calculations. Also this is water weight not powder.