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Difference in bc between lead and monometal bullets?
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<blockquote data-quote="WildRose" data-source="post: 1278277" data-attributes="member: 30902"><p>I agree and that is something I posed a while back in another thread.</p><p></p><p>Remington in particular needs to be much more responsive to a better educated class of shooters who are quite capable of putting a bullet where it needs to be at two or three times the range that hunters have generally considered to be reasonable for the last hundred years. A great example is my 700 VSSFII with a 1:12 twist that basically limits me to 50-55gr bullets from a .220 swift. The small AR manufacturers conversely figured out a decade ago that the .223 really starts to shine with bullets in the 60-85gr range as long as the rifle is throated and has the twist rate to accommodate the longer and heavier projectiles.</p><p></p><p>Winchester isn't any better and needs to get back to trying hard to compete for long range hunters dollars by repeating production of Model 70's as capable as the Sharp Shooter and Laredo they produced years ago.</p><p></p><p>Both are more than capable of producing sub MOA production guns with med/heavy barrels with a twist rate capable of handling the new heavy/long for caliber bullets.</p><p></p><p>If all they are going to is try to appeal to the Wal-Mart crowd of gunslingers it won't be long before they run out of places to market their wares and people to shoot them.</p><p></p><p>Just look at most of the "advice on a new build" threads right here, most of the suggestions start with just grabbing a model 700 from the local pawnshop and throw everything away but the exaction and start over.</p><p></p><p>I personally love the model 70 action for numerous reasons and it pains me to see the Model 70 relegated to an ever shrinking portion of the market and it's nobody's fault but Winchester's.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WildRose, post: 1278277, member: 30902"] I agree and that is something I posed a while back in another thread. Remington in particular needs to be much more responsive to a better educated class of shooters who are quite capable of putting a bullet where it needs to be at two or three times the range that hunters have generally considered to be reasonable for the last hundred years. A great example is my 700 VSSFII with a 1:12 twist that basically limits me to 50-55gr bullets from a .220 swift. The small AR manufacturers conversely figured out a decade ago that the .223 really starts to shine with bullets in the 60-85gr range as long as the rifle is throated and has the twist rate to accommodate the longer and heavier projectiles. Winchester isn't any better and needs to get back to trying hard to compete for long range hunters dollars by repeating production of Model 70's as capable as the Sharp Shooter and Laredo they produced years ago. Both are more than capable of producing sub MOA production guns with med/heavy barrels with a twist rate capable of handling the new heavy/long for caliber bullets. If all they are going to is try to appeal to the Wal-Mart crowd of gunslingers it won't be long before they run out of places to market their wares and people to shoot them. Just look at most of the "advice on a new build" threads right here, most of the suggestions start with just grabbing a model 700 from the local pawnshop and throw everything away but the exaction and start over. I personally love the model 70 action for numerous reasons and it pains me to see the Model 70 relegated to an ever shrinking portion of the market and it's nobody's fault but Winchester's. [/QUOTE]
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