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Difference Between Button/Cut Rifling?
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<blockquote data-quote="BountyHunter" data-source="post: 349024" data-attributes="member: 12"><p>Come on Mike, did you get hit on the head and are just suffering delusions or what. You know better than what you just posted. </p><p> </p><p>**** do not know where to even begin. Sure maligned a bunch of barrel makers here and got to wave the BS flag on that load of hookey. There is more utter false crap in that post than anything close to reality.</p><p> </p><p>I know of not one big name button rifling barrel maker who contours after rifling. All the mftrs I know will tell you contouring a button barrel afterwards WILL change the bore dimensions. </p><p> </p><p>Yes, you can contour a cut rifled after too.</p><p> </p><p>And everyone I talked with (which is most of them) can tell you exactly what their bore dimensions are and most have numerous sized buttons if you want a specific size.</p><p> </p><p>There are some that cryo before and will after if you want to help control stress. I know some that heat treat all for stress and some double heat treat.</p><p> </p><p>As for that WILD A-- Statement, BS BS BS. Any village idiot can go to any of their websites and see every imaginable coutour plus you can get any special you want from any of them. you know just will bet any amount of money, that you will find the same basic countours on the cut rifled and button rifled sites. Will bet again they actually post that they make them over 21" also (ie the SR BR length discussed).</p><p> </p><p>Same goes for only cut rifled barrels are used in accurate LR guns. Guess Shawn would do a lot better with his guns and first round LR by not using Hart barrels.</p><p> </p><p>I know of one button rifled maker who Uncle Sams boys paid him $250,000 to expand his operation to give them several pallets of his barrels a year to go on sniper rifles and SR 25s. They tested every barrel known to include LW and a little button barrel won big time. I have watched those barrels being measured and air guaged and no one makes a more uniform barrel than those. Pretty **** sure they were carrying them and were worried about first round cold bore shots too so that kills that hog wash that only cut LW barrels are capable of doing that.</p><p> </p><p>As for the almighty LW barrel. They do not have anymore capability than most other makers and really funny, that they are used on so few really accurate SR or LR guns if they are that hot (NOT). Most LW barrels I have seen look like they took a mortar attack on the lands with all the marks left. But that is why there are about 50 barrel makers and most have all the business that they can handle.</p><p> </p><p>I like cut rifled barrels but I will say that some of my most accurate guns are buttoned also. Some barrels dimensionally do not like certain bullets and just will not shoot them, while shooting something else like a house a fire. It is just easier to get a certain twist and dimension for sure with a cut rifled barrel.</p><p> </p><p>BH</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BountyHunter, post: 349024, member: 12"] Come on Mike, did you get hit on the head and are just suffering delusions or what. You know better than what you just posted. **** do not know where to even begin. Sure maligned a bunch of barrel makers here and got to wave the BS flag on that load of hookey. There is more utter false crap in that post than anything close to reality. I know of not one big name button rifling barrel maker who contours after rifling. All the mftrs I know will tell you contouring a button barrel afterwards WILL change the bore dimensions. Yes, you can contour a cut rifled after too. And everyone I talked with (which is most of them) can tell you exactly what their bore dimensions are and most have numerous sized buttons if you want a specific size. There are some that cryo before and will after if you want to help control stress. I know some that heat treat all for stress and some double heat treat. As for that WILD A-- Statement, BS BS BS. Any village idiot can go to any of their websites and see every imaginable coutour plus you can get any special you want from any of them. you know just will bet any amount of money, that you will find the same basic countours on the cut rifled and button rifled sites. Will bet again they actually post that they make them over 21" also (ie the SR BR length discussed). Same goes for only cut rifled barrels are used in accurate LR guns. Guess Shawn would do a lot better with his guns and first round LR by not using Hart barrels. I know of one button rifled maker who Uncle Sams boys paid him $250,000 to expand his operation to give them several pallets of his barrels a year to go on sniper rifles and SR 25s. They tested every barrel known to include LW and a little button barrel won big time. I have watched those barrels being measured and air guaged and no one makes a more uniform barrel than those. Pretty **** sure they were carrying them and were worried about first round cold bore shots too so that kills that hog wash that only cut LW barrels are capable of doing that. As for the almighty LW barrel. They do not have anymore capability than most other makers and really funny, that they are used on so few really accurate SR or LR guns if they are that hot (NOT). Most LW barrels I have seen look like they took a mortar attack on the lands with all the marks left. But that is why there are about 50 barrel makers and most have all the business that they can handle. I like cut rifled barrels but I will say that some of my most accurate guns are buttoned also. Some barrels dimensionally do not like certain bullets and just will not shoot them, while shooting something else like a house a fire. It is just easier to get a certain twist and dimension for sure with a cut rifled barrel. BH [/QUOTE]
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