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<blockquote data-quote="boomtube" data-source="post: 678241" data-attributes="member: 9215"><p>Actually, standard dies, such as what you already have, are quite good, on average. Any defective dies - rare - will be exchanged by the maker. The ony real limit to what you can do with what you have will be your own skill and work methods. And 'precision' OAL is meaningless after a point. I find no accuracy difference with +/- 5 thou OAL variation in most factory rifles, sometimes even more. Ditto with "precision" sizing of case necks; after a point, it just doesn't matter. Ditto precision powder charges. Thing is, after a certain point , simple but uncontrollable variations in primers have more effect than agonizing about trivial precision anywhere else. (Our real challenge is to find where the limits for our rigs are and load inside them!)</p><p> </p><p>Neck bushing dies are fine when we have custom tight neck chambers that require turning the necks to a specific thickness so the inside diameter is also consistant. Sure, we <u>can</u> do the same thing with loose factory (SAMMI) chambers but the case neck's already sloppy fit in the chamber neck nulifies the effect of turning so it adds little or nothing to accuracy. IMHO. I get best necks/lowest bullet runout using an inexpensive Lee Collet Neck Sizer along with a Forster body die.</p><p> </p><p>Mic die seating heads are (slight) user aids but they add nothing to the quality of the ammo. They're hardly worth the cost to a lot of us but some love 'em. </p><p> </p><p>ONLY Redding and Forster's seaters have snugly fitted full body length sleeves that align the case and bullet very well before seating begins. Other dies with short alignment sleeves are perhaps slightly easier to load with but their sleeves rarely do anything very good for concentricity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="boomtube, post: 678241, member: 9215"] Actually, standard dies, such as what you already have, are quite good, on average. Any defective dies - rare - will be exchanged by the maker. The ony real limit to what you can do with what you have will be your own skill and work methods. And 'precision' OAL is meaningless after a point. I find no accuracy difference with +/- 5 thou OAL variation in most factory rifles, sometimes even more. Ditto with "precision" sizing of case necks; after a point, it just doesn't matter. Ditto precision powder charges. Thing is, after a certain point , simple but uncontrollable variations in primers have more effect than agonizing about trivial precision anywhere else. (Our real challenge is to find where the limits for our rigs are and load inside them!) Neck bushing dies are fine when we have custom tight neck chambers that require turning the necks to a specific thickness so the inside diameter is also consistant. Sure, we [U]can[/U] do the same thing with loose factory (SAMMI) chambers but the case neck's already sloppy fit in the chamber neck nulifies the effect of turning so it adds little or nothing to accuracy. IMHO. I get best necks/lowest bullet runout using an inexpensive Lee Collet Neck Sizer along with a Forster body die. Mic die seating heads are (slight) user aids but they add nothing to the quality of the ammo. They're hardly worth the cost to a lot of us but some love 'em. ONLY Redding and Forster's seaters have snugly fitted full body length sleeves that align the case and bullet very well before seating begins. Other dies with short alignment sleeves are perhaps slightly easier to load with but their sleeves rarely do anything very good for concentricity. [/QUOTE]
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