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<blockquote data-quote="Coopershawk" data-source="post: 1305127" data-attributes="member: 90458"><p>No offense taken<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Just a different point of view.</p><p> My "scientific" reference was regarding sample size. Let's say brand L sells 150,000 of a particular model and 52 people (1 in 2884) complain on the net generating some lengthy posts. Is that in indicator the brand is bad? If company B sells only 1000 of a comparable model with only 4 complaints (1 in 250) -are they better? And what if brand N and S don't even make a model remotely close in price or weight, are they even better?</p><p> I say you should have kept the Leupold and "drove it like you stole it". See for yourself and send it back if you aren't happy. If it breaks tell us how you used it and what broke.</p><p> Heck, I thought I was a serious rifle shooter until I starting reading forums like this one. Some of these guys here shoot more rounds in a week than I shoot in a year. I'm certain they have different expectations of their equipment than I do. Their opinion is very valuable, but not always applicable to my circumstances. </p><p> In other places I have read a "one star" review of Swarovski binos cuz UPS crunched the box (binos were fine). Another guy was raving on multiple forums that Cooper rifles were junk- because he had a loose guard screw on his. Then a half dozen more guys chimed in how they felt the same way- even though they never owned one...</p><p> None of us wants to get the 'lemon" so we have to try to weigh all the factors. With regard to internet complaints, I think 'percentage' of unhappy customers vs volume of complaints would be more valuable. Absent that data- then learning specifics about the failures would be helpful. You reference complaints going back a few years- but scope companies continually change models (hopefully to upgrade). If they "fixed the glitch" should I still remove them from consideration?</p><p> I know for a "hunt of a lifetime" we would all like a guarantee that we will achieve total equipment satisfaction. If a turret fails that would certainly be a deal breaker and a great warranty of little consolation. But if my OIL hunt was for sheep I'm not sure a 3 pound scope is the answer either. Looking forward to seeing which make/model you end up trying and how it suits you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Coopershawk, post: 1305127, member: 90458"] No offense taken:) Just a different point of view. My "scientific" reference was regarding sample size. Let's say brand L sells 150,000 of a particular model and 52 people (1 in 2884) complain on the net generating some lengthy posts. Is that in indicator the brand is bad? If company B sells only 1000 of a comparable model with only 4 complaints (1 in 250) -are they better? And what if brand N and S don't even make a model remotely close in price or weight, are they even better? I say you should have kept the Leupold and "drove it like you stole it". See for yourself and send it back if you aren't happy. If it breaks tell us how you used it and what broke. Heck, I thought I was a serious rifle shooter until I starting reading forums like this one. Some of these guys here shoot more rounds in a week than I shoot in a year. I'm certain they have different expectations of their equipment than I do. Their opinion is very valuable, but not always applicable to my circumstances. In other places I have read a "one star" review of Swarovski binos cuz UPS crunched the box (binos were fine). Another guy was raving on multiple forums that Cooper rifles were junk- because he had a loose guard screw on his. Then a half dozen more guys chimed in how they felt the same way- even though they never owned one... None of us wants to get the 'lemon" so we have to try to weigh all the factors. With regard to internet complaints, I think 'percentage' of unhappy customers vs volume of complaints would be more valuable. Absent that data- then learning specifics about the failures would be helpful. You reference complaints going back a few years- but scope companies continually change models (hopefully to upgrade). If they "fixed the glitch" should I still remove them from consideration? I know for a "hunt of a lifetime" we would all like a guarantee that we will achieve total equipment satisfaction. If a turret fails that would certainly be a deal breaker and a great warranty of little consolation. But if my OIL hunt was for sheep I'm not sure a 3 pound scope is the answer either. Looking forward to seeing which make/model you end up trying and how it suits you. [/QUOTE]
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