Detachable mounts question

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by coldhunt, Dec 12, 2010.

  1. coldhunt

    coldhunt Active Member

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    I am a relative newbie to long range hunting and this forum. After 30 plus years with my great 30-06, I am going to build a 300 rum. I want to have 2 scopes, VX7 2.5-10 for most hunting and a vx7 4.5-18 for a back up and for long range Elk when I feel I am good enough. My questions are do the detachable systems hold zero properly, and which is best? Thanks for any help you can give me.
     
  2. NomadPilot

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    Here are probably the top quick detach mounts. I've got 2 LaRue mounts on my AR rifles.

    Rainier Arms, LLCâ„¢ | Manufacturer
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    They're both very good, but I personally don't think they belong on a long-range rig. Out to a couple hundred yards, a small shift in zero after dismount/remount isn't going to matter. But if you're looking at 800+ yards, a fraction of a MOA starts to be the difference between hit and miss. If you can recheck zero after each change, then they'll work ok. I'd just go with the larger scope (or maybe a 3.5-14x) and leave it mounted.
     

  3. coldhunt

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    Thanks I don't want to do it unless it works. The reason I am thinking of it is because I fell on a muddy embankment last year and smashed my scope into a tree. we keep an old gun with scope out there but it wasn't as much fun. 6hr drive and 45 min quad ride just to get to our cabin. If there is no way any of these systems will maintain zero, I will take my old gun for back up. I can resight up there but we try not to shoot around the cabin unless it's at game.
     
  4. FEENIX

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    +1. Another consideration, very pricey but if budget allows you to, (there are other sources but) try ...

    March rifle scopes Australia & New Zealand Hunting 2.5-25 x 42


    Good luck and welcome to LRH.

    Ed
     
  5. coldhunt

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    Thanks Ed, the reason I am thinking Leupold is not because they are the best, but because they are good, and I can get service localy if I need it.
    I think my biggest concern is the ability to maintain zero, from detacahable mounts, and I am starting to think I can't.
     
  6. FEENIX

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    I too am a big fan of Leupold and use them on most of my rifles. I never considered anything detachable when it comes to optics as NomadPilot noted. I have a couple of 4.5-14Xs on my rigs ... I know guys that are very capable of taking the shots at 1000+ yards with this set up, unfortunately, I am not one of them. My eyes are not the greatest and requires lot of help in the magnification department. But like anything else, practice, practice, practice makes perfect

    Good luck!

    Ed
     
  7. coldhunt

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    Thanks again this is a great site. I like the lowest setting I can get in the bush. This is another reason I was thinking about 2 scopes. I put a Nikon Monarch 2.5-10 on my old rifle, and I keep it at the lowest setting in the bush. Haven't had a cougar or bear jump out at me yet, but a buddy had a cougar meeting, (and I'm not talking about the ones in the bar). It was humbling for him to say the least. (More like change the underwear humbling). He also took on a new appretiation for lower magnification in the bush, which we have been preaching to him for years. I would love a 1.5-12, which I am now vainly searching for, Maybe I will have to give up on my idea to shoot and kill at 50 to 600yds.
     
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    Thanks again Feenix. If my asumption is corect it will take a 2.5-10 and make it a 14 at the top end, and would also increase the low end. Some are saying that it gets blurry at longer ranges. I wonder what the implications would be with regard to parallax. Been hunting for over 30 years, and still know nothing about equipment, but that will change.
     
  10. Jon A

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    For your use I see no need for actual QD mounts. If you're leaving the scope back at camp, in the truck, etc, just leave a torque wrench with it and use any number of quality tactical rings.

    In all likelyhood that'll give you a stronger, more reliable system with better return to zero than most QD setups--you just need to use a wrench.
     
  11. alf

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    Leupold's Quick Release (not Weaver style) rings and bases work as advertised. Same as the dual dovetail, but with quick release capabilities, and will take all you can dish out. One of my first experiences with them was with a custom tight necked 22-250, McMillan, etc. I shot a 5 shot group removing and replacing the scope after each shot, and still shot under a half inch at 100. I have traveled with two scopes zeroed to avert disaster like you had. I do have some extra 700 rings and bases available if that's what you need.
     
  12. coldhunt

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    Thanks for the info Alf, and everyone else. Would they be as good with a 300 mag?
     
  13. alf

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    My first set was for a sub 8# 700 Custom KS Mtn Rifle in 375 H&H that sheared off the windage screw on the base. Pretty sure your 300 won't make 'em sweat.
     
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    Thanks I am still toying with the idea, I am going to look into it some more. Having the extra scope ready, when I am 6 plus hours from home. Sure seems like a comforting thought. As mentioned a spare scope and a torque wrench can acomplish the same thing.