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Deep cut Fluting on Barrels
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<blockquote data-quote="Jeff In TX" data-source="post: 73462" data-attributes="member: 1522"><p>[ QUOTE ]</p><p> I have only seen and shot a carbon fiber wrapped barrel. the barrel was 1.35 at the breach taperd down to 1.25 at the muzzel the gun was a Rem 700LA , the whole rig weighed under 10lbs with scope and all. It shot great Sub 1/2" , it shot a 10 shot group in 2 min at 200yds that was under 1.5" . The owner of the gun said that he has shot 20 shot groups and had no change in impact. I guess thats a good thing I just can't see paying $700 for a barrel </p><p></p><p>[/ QUOTE ]</p><p></p><p>JDJones,</p><p></p><p>I'm still against carbon fiber wrapped barrels, as they don't do everything they advertise. </p><p></p><p>Yes, they significantly reduce the weight of the barrel, however their biggest claim to fame is they dissipate heat faster. This is a truly false statement. Carbon is actually an insulator and most of these carbon fiber wrapped barrels trap heat in and not dissipate it as advertised. </p><p></p><p>It may feel cool to the touch on the outside, but tests have shown that the internal barrel temps to be scorching hot. </p><p></p><p>For a hunting rifle where few rounds are fired at anyone time, I think these carbon wrapped barrels would be a good choice if the price wasn't so steep. But, these barrels have a nasty habit of getting so hot during successive firing strings that the carbon wrap actually bubbles up. Some of the folks in the military that tested these barrels nick named them bubble wrapped barrels. </p><p></p><p>Also, the folks at the leading producer of these barrels have a very bad reputation at not supporting these barrels and the associated problems that come with them. There are quite a few on this site that have had bubble wrapped barrels or other problems and have horrible stories to tell about trying to get them fixed.</p><p></p><p>I have never owned one, but did watch one bubble up on the firing line at Storm Mountain Training Center back in the 2000 or 2001 time frame.</p><p></p><p>Now, Mike Rock at Rock Creek Barrels is offering a carbon wrapped barrel by Advanced Barrel Systems that is using a newer type of carbon wrapped technology. I have no information on there barrels or processes, but I do know Mike and he knows his s*!t better than most, so there's probably some good stuff going there.</p><p></p><p>As for lighting up a rifle to carry, I'm right there with you. I carried my 17.5 pound tactical rifle while moose hunting in Alaska last fall. Humping that rifle for miles a day on the tundra got old. That's why GAP is rebuilding it into their TIS rifle. There gonna shave off almost 7 lbs and that's a good thing.</p><p></p><p>Just my $0.02 worth on the subject!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeff In TX, post: 73462, member: 1522"] [ QUOTE ] I have only seen and shot a carbon fiber wrapped barrel. the barrel was 1.35 at the breach taperd down to 1.25 at the muzzel the gun was a Rem 700LA , the whole rig weighed under 10lbs with scope and all. It shot great Sub 1/2" , it shot a 10 shot group in 2 min at 200yds that was under 1.5" . The owner of the gun said that he has shot 20 shot groups and had no change in impact. I guess thats a good thing I just can't see paying $700 for a barrel [/ QUOTE ] JDJones, I'm still against carbon fiber wrapped barrels, as they don't do everything they advertise. Yes, they significantly reduce the weight of the barrel, however their biggest claim to fame is they dissipate heat faster. This is a truly false statement. Carbon is actually an insulator and most of these carbon fiber wrapped barrels trap heat in and not dissipate it as advertised. It may feel cool to the touch on the outside, but tests have shown that the internal barrel temps to be scorching hot. For a hunting rifle where few rounds are fired at anyone time, I think these carbon wrapped barrels would be a good choice if the price wasn’t so steep. But, these barrels have a nasty habit of getting so hot during successive firing strings that the carbon wrap actually bubbles up. Some of the folks in the military that tested these barrels nick named them bubble wrapped barrels. Also, the folks at the leading producer of these barrels have a very bad reputation at not supporting these barrels and the associated problems that come with them. There are quite a few on this site that have had bubble wrapped barrels or other problems and have horrible stories to tell about trying to get them fixed. I have never owned one, but did watch one bubble up on the firing line at Storm Mountain Training Center back in the 2000 or 2001 time frame. Now, Mike Rock at Rock Creek Barrels is offering a carbon wrapped barrel by Advanced Barrel Systems that is using a newer type of carbon wrapped technology. I have no information on there barrels or processes, but I do know Mike and he knows his s*!t better than most, so there’s probably some good stuff going there. As for lighting up a rifle to carry, I'm right there with you. I carried my 17.5 pound tactical rifle while moose hunting in Alaska last fall. Humping that rifle for miles a day on the tundra got old. That's why GAP is rebuilding it into their TIS rifle. There gonna shave off almost 7 lbs and that's a good thing. Just my $0.02 worth on the subject! [/QUOTE]
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