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Darth Vader..we have your riflescope, Rem 2020
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<blockquote data-quote="joeycoates" data-source="post: 916110" data-attributes="member: 72330"><p>varmintH8R, I was actually thinking about that last night. Part of the enjoyment to me, and I would think most others who would actually frequent this site, is the challenge of long distance shooting. It is the working to achieve something that not every hunter can or will do. Shooting at long distances is not easy, but getting to where you can make those shots is rewarding. I really do not think that something like this scope would especially be aimed at the type of persons who would be on this site. For the most part I would say that it would be made for the hunter who while they enjoy the hunt, they do not really want to take, or maybe do not have the time or place, to become really proficient at taking longer range shots on game.</p><p></p><p>With that being said where would we be now if someone was not trying to "make it better" or to make technological advances? Look at what advances such as shooting programs that can be run on a smart phone have done for us. They have put the ability to make 1000+ yard shots into the hands of many who quite frankly would have a really, really hard time doing so without it. This is not to say that you do not still have to practice at it as the shooting programs do not make taking those shots a given, but it sure has made it a lot easier for most of us, myself included.</p><p></p><p>There will be a market for the 2020, however small it may be. And you are absolutely correct, these type of scopes will become lighter, smaller, faster, and more capable. I kind of look at this from a military point of view. We now have designated marksmen in our infantry platoons/squads. While we try to give them as much of a chance as possible to go out and shoot, we will never be able to afford to let them shoot as much or as often as we would like to see. Especially not with the spending cuts that are going on now. But for the average designated marksman who might be taking a critical shot pointing up at a 35 degree angle to eliminate a threat that is causing casualties...I want that marksman to have something like this. It would want him (or her now) to have a much better chance at making an effective first round kill so as to eliminate the threat, and move on to the next threat. They still have the ultimate decision on when to pull the trigger, but it would take a whole lot of the the things that take time and repetitive shooting out of the equation. </p><p></p><p>For a scope like this to really become wanted in our realm it needs better optics and a lot more reach. But I would have to think that it would evolve over time to get there if a market for it does exist. The question would be are there enough people like us who would pay for that piece of equipment which would take nearly all of the variables other than wind out of the picture in order to make that 1357 yard shot on a deer? I don't know, but if you were out somewhere, had been hiking all over the place for 3 days, and you only had 15 seconds to make that shot on a once in a lifetime trophy elk that was 1000+ yards away, would it be nice to point, range, calculate adjustments, and make that shot all in one action? I have to think about that one.. gun)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="joeycoates, post: 916110, member: 72330"] varmintH8R, I was actually thinking about that last night. Part of the enjoyment to me, and I would think most others who would actually frequent this site, is the challenge of long distance shooting. It is the working to achieve something that not every hunter can or will do. Shooting at long distances is not easy, but getting to where you can make those shots is rewarding. I really do not think that something like this scope would especially be aimed at the type of persons who would be on this site. For the most part I would say that it would be made for the hunter who while they enjoy the hunt, they do not really want to take, or maybe do not have the time or place, to become really proficient at taking longer range shots on game. With that being said where would we be now if someone was not trying to "make it better" or to make technological advances? Look at what advances such as shooting programs that can be run on a smart phone have done for us. They have put the ability to make 1000+ yard shots into the hands of many who quite frankly would have a really, really hard time doing so without it. This is not to say that you do not still have to practice at it as the shooting programs do not make taking those shots a given, but it sure has made it a lot easier for most of us, myself included. There will be a market for the 2020, however small it may be. And you are absolutely correct, these type of scopes will become lighter, smaller, faster, and more capable. I kind of look at this from a military point of view. We now have designated marksmen in our infantry platoons/squads. While we try to give them as much of a chance as possible to go out and shoot, we will never be able to afford to let them shoot as much or as often as we would like to see. Especially not with the spending cuts that are going on now. But for the average designated marksman who might be taking a critical shot pointing up at a 35 degree angle to eliminate a threat that is causing casualties...I want that marksman to have something like this. It would want him (or her now) to have a much better chance at making an effective first round kill so as to eliminate the threat, and move on to the next threat. They still have the ultimate decision on when to pull the trigger, but it would take a whole lot of the the things that take time and repetitive shooting out of the equation. For a scope like this to really become wanted in our realm it needs better optics and a lot more reach. But I would have to think that it would evolve over time to get there if a market for it does exist. The question would be are there enough people like us who would pay for that piece of equipment which would take nearly all of the variables other than wind out of the picture in order to make that 1357 yard shot on a deer? I don't know, but if you were out somewhere, had been hiking all over the place for 3 days, and you only had 15 seconds to make that shot on a once in a lifetime trophy elk that was 1000+ yards away, would it be nice to point, range, calculate adjustments, and make that shot all in one action? I have to think about that one.. gun) [/QUOTE]
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