Custom smokeless Savage .45cal

Discussion in 'Muzzleloader Hunting' started by ATH, Aug 30, 2010.

  1. ATH

    ATH Well-Known Member

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    I started with a Savage .243Win package gun from Gander Mountain and added an HS Precision varmint stock, 26" 1:22 twist PacNor 45cal barrel, Rifle Basix trigger, 20MOA base, quick release rings, Bushnell 6500 Elite Tactical scope, custom breech plug to use shortened 308 cases as primer carriers, and a single shot follower.

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    It throws 200gr Shockwaves at 2770 fps with a duplex load of AA5744/H322. First load I tried, and I'm sticking with it.
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    On to 300 and perhaps 400 yds next weekend, if I have time.
     
  2. Bill Maylor

    Bill Maylor Well-Known Member

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    This is COOLgun). You have B@##RAINS:cool:. This is very impressive. Please tell us more. Bill Maylor..
     

  3. ATH

    ATH Well-Known Member

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    What else do you want to know? I haven't shot it a lot yet, just over the chrono and that one group. I use Federal Large Rifle Magnum primers. I used QR rings so I can access the barrel nut easily, switching back to the factory 243 barrel if I want to shoot coyotes. Although that little sporter barrel looks a little silly in that big varmint stock!
     
  4. Bill Maylor

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    I just have never herd of any one doing something like this. I like when people thing out side the box. I dont know much about muzzle loaders, I dont own one, but I like what you have attempted. Do you know other people that have done this with a rifle? Bill Maylor..
     
  5. ATH

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  6. Bill Maylor

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    This looks like fun:D.Thanks for the heads up.. Please let us know how the longer shots work out. Bill Maylor..
     
  7. dirtboy

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    I like the 308 cases, i seen simalar thing done with ultimate muzzle loaders. the video they had it seem real easy to take the primed casess in and out for primeing instead of mess with a little disc.:D
     
  8. Frank7mm

    Frank7mm Well-Known Member

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    I did the same with a rem action but I used 45 win pistol brass which is basically a short 308 with out the work. I also used 45 cal and with simialar chamber pressure to a 7rem mag I could get a 250grn power belt over 3000fps. Bullet selection become's very narrow at the velocity's that can be obtained. Recoil can be severe even in a fairly heavy gun.
     
  9. edge

    edge Well-Known Member

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    Frank7mm, I am not a fan of Powerbelt bullets as they are pretty fragile...IMO.

    Many folks use the 40 caliber XTP, SST, and Barnes Spitfires mainly in Harvester Blue sabots.
    Sizing 45 caliber bullets or picking the Parker bullets for a snug fit sabotless work well too.

    Nice looking rifle ATH, and very nice shooting :)

    edge.

    PS I use a 45 ACP with either a LRM primer or a modified ACP case to accept a 209 primer...generally the latter, in a converted 30-06 Savage model 110.
     
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  10. johnp034

    johnp034 Well-Known Member

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    ATH, what does Pac-Nor get for the .45 cal. barrel and also for the breech plug? Did you do the barrel installation yourself and if so, how difficult. Would love to try it! Wonder if the ol' Ruger #1 would be able to be converted?

    Thanx,
     
  11. edge

    edge Well-Known Member

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    A few folks on Doug's have converted their Ruger #1's to ML's.

    Lots of options with conversions.

    edge.
     
  12. ATH

    ATH Well-Known Member

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    I can't remember the barrel price, I think mid-300s to mid-400s? My breech plug, which allows me to use the shortened cases, was about $90 from Pete's Machine in PA. All of this in detail is available on Doug's Savage Board (run a quick google search for the URL).

    Regarding barrel swap -- the beauty of the Savage is you can change the barrels very easily. All you need is a $35 wrench and a homemade vise to hold the action while you do it (www. switchbarrel.com). Trick is you need to carefully heat it the first time, after that it's very very easy. With a "set-to" gauge (midway between a go and no-go gauge) I can swap back and for between my smokeless ML barrel and my .243Win barrel in about 10 minutes (scope on QR rings).

    Ruger #1s and Rem700s have also been converted....but usually requires a smith or good machining knowledge.
     
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    The guys over on Doug's Message Board almost have the Remington 700ML Conversion ready. Pac Nor is going to make a drop in barrel for them also. A .45 would be nice in a Remington sitting in a VSF stock.
     
  14. TrophyHunter_colorado

    TrophyHunter_colorado Well-Known Member

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    Is there anyway you can use 777 or 209 powder in your converted ML. In colorado you can not use Smokeless powder. If you can is there anyway you can reach the FPS you are with smokeless. Thanks for your time