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<blockquote data-quote="Garycrow" data-source="post: 1057227" data-attributes="member: 30743"><p>Mcgowen is a pretty low end custom barrel, some have good luck with them but many seem to not. White Oak Armament used to use some Shilen blanks for their barrels but looking at their website they only say shilen on a few of their barrels, the rest leave it unlabeled which tells me they're cheap no-name blanks. Shilen generally makes good barrels. I don't know if yours is a Shilen or not. </p><p></p><p>I still maintain that your money would be better spent on top quality barrels. I was around when the cryo fad was going on about 15 years ago and to my mind it proved just that, a fad. I believe krieger cryos their barrels at some point in the manufacturing process but I think they state that it's because it makes the machining easier, not because they've observed any accuracy benefits. Benchrest shooters will do anything to give them a miniscule edge in competition and a lot of them have tried cryo over the years to chase that edge. The fact that the vast majority of them don't cryo anymore tells me that they've found no benefit to it. You say you don't subscribe to the shoot/clean break in method. I do like to do that on new good barrels. My last three barrels have been bartlein 5R's and I've broken them in with the shoot/clean method for the first 10 rounds. All of them have quit copper fouling after 8-9 rounds and do not copper foul at all now. One of my 6.5x47 lapuas had about 200 rounds through it before it's last cleaning and there was absolutely no copper fouling to be found it in when I cleaned it. I don't believe the shoot/clean regime really affects accuracy but I do believe it helps minimize copper fouling, at least I've had good luck with it in mine. </p><p></p><p>I wish you luck with the cryo though, but I don't think you're going to find it helps anything. For me I feel the best course is the best barrel I can get, carefully broken in.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Garycrow, post: 1057227, member: 30743"] Mcgowen is a pretty low end custom barrel, some have good luck with them but many seem to not. White Oak Armament used to use some Shilen blanks for their barrels but looking at their website they only say shilen on a few of their barrels, the rest leave it unlabeled which tells me they're cheap no-name blanks. Shilen generally makes good barrels. I don't know if yours is a Shilen or not. I still maintain that your money would be better spent on top quality barrels. I was around when the cryo fad was going on about 15 years ago and to my mind it proved just that, a fad. I believe krieger cryos their barrels at some point in the manufacturing process but I think they state that it's because it makes the machining easier, not because they've observed any accuracy benefits. Benchrest shooters will do anything to give them a miniscule edge in competition and a lot of them have tried cryo over the years to chase that edge. The fact that the vast majority of them don't cryo anymore tells me that they've found no benefit to it. You say you don't subscribe to the shoot/clean break in method. I do like to do that on new good barrels. My last three barrels have been bartlein 5R's and I've broken them in with the shoot/clean method for the first 10 rounds. All of them have quit copper fouling after 8-9 rounds and do not copper foul at all now. One of my 6.5x47 lapuas had about 200 rounds through it before it's last cleaning and there was absolutely no copper fouling to be found it in when I cleaned it. I don't believe the shoot/clean regime really affects accuracy but I do believe it helps minimize copper fouling, at least I've had good luck with it in mine. I wish you luck with the cryo though, but I don't think you're going to find it helps anything. For me I feel the best course is the best barrel I can get, carefully broken in. [/QUOTE]
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