Coyotes effecting Whitetails?

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  1. 7mmSendaro

    7mmSendaro Well-Known Member

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    Our whitetail hunting grounds definitely have something wrong this year. We hunt 140 acres of prime ground complete with a total of 25 acres of food plots not to mention normal farming left-overs. Normally several mature bucks are taken and as many does as anyone wishes to take. Things have been this way for over ten years.

    This year we are just not seeing many deer. What we are seeing is an incredible amount of coyotes. In my experience, I have not seen coyotes have any significant effect on mature deer. However, it sure seems they have pushed the deer out right now. Has anyone else had similar experience?
     
  2. odsixer

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    Time to get out the coyote call and thin 'em out. I noticed the same thing this year at my favourite spot. I still killed a nice whitetail but they're really sparse this year which is odd because we've had a couple of mild winters. I'm going back later this winter to try a few stands and see what happens, good practice anyway.
     

  3. 7mmSendaro

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    Oh it'll be fun cleaning out the yotes. I just can't believe what an impact they've had.
     
  4. mikenc

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    If you have coyotes on the property, get rid of them ASAP.
     
  5. royinidaho

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    Its been 3 years since the yotes out back have been thinned. That year there were about a dozen harvested during the winter.

    The next year every doe raised twins. These were muleys. Not sure about the whitetails, they are a bit tougher to observe.;)

    Right now, there are 4 distinct yote packs out back. One den site is no more than 300 yards from my house. They are mocking me a bunch. How, you ask? By crapping in my back yard, that's how!

    As soon as the cows are pulled off the BIA ground I'll go into my LR yote sniping mode along with some walk and stalk.
     
  6. mikenc

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    Heck, if people are upset by people shooting from a truck window, I wonder what they'd say about shooting coyotes from the comfort of your sofa or recliner? Maybe even from the throne. Place the t.v. in just the right place and you can create and play x-box hunting "LIVE" for real. LOL

    Just joking,,,the mental picture is devastating to the mind.
     
  7. roninflag

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    coyotes vs 7mm

    a 120 balistic tip; nosler brass ; and either I-4350; re-19 re-22 or h 4831 for 3400+?? i think that would put them down.
     
  8. royinidaho

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    Mikenc

    Shot one from the basement door while the family watched from the kitchen. It was under the trampoline. Now they are crapping under the poplar tree.:(

    I shoot starlings during the day and the yotes clean 'em up during the night. I'm training 'em.;) One of these nights, bang!

     
  9. 7mmSendaro

    7mmSendaro Well-Known Member

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    Coyote vs AR15

    In this country, yotes are a relatively short distance affair. AR-15 with 69 gr SMK is just the ticket, especially when they come in two or three at a time! Time to get the FoxPro tuned up...........
     
  10. Guy M

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    Absolutely coyotes will have a bad effect on the deer population. Here in Washington I've seen them after even adult mule deer, and the fawns are easy prey. In the winter, adult mulies can become prey.

    Coyote size likely has something to do with it. We get some big ones here - I shot one a few years back that measures a full 60" from tip of nose to tip of tail. Kept that hide, but have seen others of equal size since. He probably weighed close to 50 pounds too.

    I didn't take the attached photo - borrowed it from another web site where it caught my attention. The story said that it was two 'yotes going after a mature mulie buck near Yellowstone National Park. From what I've seen, I have no trouble believing it. Just this afternoon I took a shot at a yote at about 350 yards. Have to admit that I missed him, but I'll be back out, after them again all winter long while the mulies are most vulnerable.

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    Regards, Guy
     
  11. speedbump

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    I watched two big 'yotes sniffing around a thicket full of deer at @100 yards away this AM. The deer weren't too worried. They'll rip up fawns, for sure, and will definitely stalk a herd looking for the weak and sick. Seen it a bunch. Now, bobcats, on the other hand, will worry a deer to the max. I had some deer bust past my stand while bow hunting 3 weeks ago looking over their shoulders and blowing. A few minutes later, THREE bobcats strolled through & stopped to lounge a bit. All under 25 yards - it was a joy to see.

    The thing that's causing heavy stress on deer in many areas is disease. A high deer density area like you described is a prime target for CWD and 'blue tongue', which is wiping out bunches of deer. It might be worthwhile to check with DNR biologists and see what's up....... Other than that - poaching. Don't ignore the possibility.
     
  12. Roll-Yur-Own

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    They don't seem to have that much effect on Deer here in the east. But they sure mess with my wild turkeys!

    I think they have plenty of woodchucks to eat so they never really bother the deer....at least not the mature ones.
     
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    Same here

    We see deer all the time but not this year. I have caught 5 Coyotes in snares in the last 30 days,

    Thanks,Keith