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<blockquote data-quote="nicholasjohn" data-source="post: 1996560" data-attributes="member: 109113"><p>I have used that bullet in their 30-06 Superformance load, and I like it. I have only shot a couple of deer with it, both at fairly close range. These were average-sized blacktails that I had rattled in, so both were frontal chest shots. Both bullets exited, and neither exit wound was very big. One exited just behind the last rib; the other exit hole was right next to the animal's anus. The hearts of both deer were detached from the blood vessels, but not blown up. There was plenty of damage to the lungs, but it was not extreme - definitely not the lung soup that guys often talk about. These bullets are not dramatic expanders, but they seem to expand enough. There was not a lot of blood-shot meat around the entry wounds, and the ribs were broken but not exploded. I have no idea what these bullets would do at long range, having never tried them beyond about 75 yards. Everyone here suggests going lighter in weight, which might not be a bad idea. In the 308, the 165's aren't going to be going very fast, but the 150's should be cruising about as fast as the 165's do in the '06. I would say that for deer, the 165 is definitely more than we need - that's probably the elk bullet in this design for 30 caliber cartridges. I think they also load a 180-grain GMX if you prefer for the bigger animals, but I would try the 165's first, provided they shoot well in your rifle. I'm curious to see how they behave on bigger animals, and when they hit bones. I already know that they will fully penetrate deer the long way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nicholasjohn, post: 1996560, member: 109113"] I have used that bullet in their 30-06 Superformance load, and I like it. I have only shot a couple of deer with it, both at fairly close range. These were average-sized blacktails that I had rattled in, so both were frontal chest shots. Both bullets exited, and neither exit wound was very big. One exited just behind the last rib; the other exit hole was right next to the animal's anus. The hearts of both deer were detached from the blood vessels, but not blown up. There was plenty of damage to the lungs, but it was not extreme - definitely not the lung soup that guys often talk about. These bullets are not dramatic expanders, but they seem to expand enough. There was not a lot of blood-shot meat around the entry wounds, and the ribs were broken but not exploded. I have no idea what these bullets would do at long range, having never tried them beyond about 75 yards. Everyone here suggests going lighter in weight, which might not be a bad idea. In the 308, the 165's aren't going to be going very fast, but the 150's should be cruising about as fast as the 165's do in the '06. I would say that for deer, the 165 is definitely more than we need - that's probably the elk bullet in this design for 30 caliber cartridges. I think they also load a 180-grain GMX if you prefer for the bigger animals, but I would try the 165's first, provided they shoot well in your rifle. I'm curious to see how they behave on bigger animals, and when they hit bones. I already know that they will fully penetrate deer the long way. [/QUOTE]
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