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<blockquote data-quote="middleofnowhere" data-source="post: 1535388" data-attributes="member: 96793"><p>You can use a canister stove at high altitude or in cold conditions, it's not a big deal. The canister has to be warm. Modern canister stoves like Jetboil and MSR offerings are truly revolutionay in efficiency. The downsides are that the canisters have to be warm and the fuel has to be available (if you fly someplace, you can't bring a canister with you). </p><p></p><p>Back in the day, I used to climb peaks. Sometimes carrying a snowboard or using rock/iceclimbing gear to get where I was going. The highest I've ever been was 18,500' down in Mexico. A buddy and I climbed El Pico de Orizaba and snowboarded down. Carrying heavy packs, ice climbing gear and snowboards, we decided to make it a two day ascent and camped at about 17,000'. We used an MSR XGK stove because we knew gasoline was our only sure source of fuel (this was before Al Gore invented the internet). The upside of a liquid fuel stove like an XGK is that it works at any temp or altitude. You only have to consider boiling time as water boils at a much lower temperature with altitude. The downside to this type of stove is that you have to cook outside a tent (due to risk of flair-ups) and it needs a surface that will support a pot.</p><p></p><p>If we knew we were going to have fuel available, we would have used a Bibler hanging stove. They are really easy to make if you do an image search on the net. The advantage of a hanging stove is that you can suspend from inside tent, a tripod of trecking poles or on a tree branch. Because they use gas canisters, there is little risk of a flair-up that could destroy your tent or bag.</p><p></p><p>Jetboils and MSR's Windburner stoves are ideal to addapt to a hanging configuration. There are commercial kits available or plenty of diy resources on the net. The advantage of a hanging stove is you can use inside a tent and you won't care whats on the ground.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]115272[/ATTACH] </p><p></p><p>As far as keeping the canister warm, just put it in your jacket or sleeping bag for a bit before use. I've melted tons of snow over the years at very high elevations and cold temps.</p><p></p><p>Now days I like to carry a rifle when backpacking. It's cool to combine all the other disciplines involved in mountaineering and maybe bring back some meat to share with family and friends.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="middleofnowhere, post: 1535388, member: 96793"] You can use a canister stove at high altitude or in cold conditions, it’s not a big deal. The canister has to be warm. Modern canister stoves like Jetboil and MSR offerings are truly revolutionay in efficiency. The downsides are that the canisters have to be warm and the fuel has to be available (if you fly someplace, you can’t bring a canister with you). Back in the day, I used to climb peaks. Sometimes carrying a snowboard or using rock/iceclimbing gear to get where I was going. The highest I’ve ever been was 18,500’ down in Mexico. A buddy and I climbed El Pico de Orizaba and snowboarded down. Carrying heavy packs, ice climbing gear and snowboards, we decided to make it a two day ascent and camped at about 17,000’. We used an MSR XGK stove because we knew gasoline was our only sure source of fuel (this was before Al Gore invented the internet). The upside of a liquid fuel stove like an XGK is that it works at any temp or altitude. You only have to consider boiling time as water boils at a much lower temperature with altitude. The downside to this type of stove is that you have to cook outside a tent (due to risk of flair-ups) and it needs a surface that will support a pot. If we knew we were going to have fuel available, we would have used a Bibler hanging stove. They are really easy to make if you do an image search on the net. The advantage of a hanging stove is that you can suspend from inside tent, a tripod of trecking poles or on a tree branch. Because they use gas canisters, there is little risk of a flair-up that could destroy your tent or bag. Jetboils and MSR’s Windburner stoves are ideal to addapt to a hanging configuration. There are commercial kits available or plenty of diy resources on the net. The advantage of a hanging stove is you can use inside a tent and you won’t care whats on the ground. [ATTACH=full]115272[/ATTACH] As far as keeping the canister warm, just put it in your jacket or sleeping bag for a bit before use. I’ve melted tons of snow over the years at very high elevations and cold temps. Now days I like to carry a rifle when backpacking. It’s cool to combine all the other disciplines involved in mountaineering and maybe bring back some meat to share with family and friends. [/QUOTE]
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