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<blockquote data-quote="Centre Punch" data-source="post: 83509" data-attributes="member: 3048"><p>Hey Matt</p><p>I hope you have another Friday afternoon free cos boy could we sink some beer's and have one hell of a debate, we could bring Pete Lincoln in on it as well and my mate Jonse'y for a real anti government view and his wife's a copper! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif</p><p></p><p>I have always felt more of a subject then a citizen and what is written in our passports, to me is a term, rather then a fact.</p><p>Thanks for the History reminder but in my opinion these past statutes, charters and documents are'nt worth the "Parchment" they are written on and as far as i am concerned an unwritten constitution is NO constitution at all. [ QUOTE ]</p><p>No person shall be... deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law. </p><p></p><p>[/ QUOTE ]</p><p>All of the above have been contravened at one time or another, so even if we did have one it would have ignored by a government that does what it wants, especially the government of Mr Blair. If there is something this government does not like which is not covered by a specific law, they will invent one to cover it and tack it on to the end of some otherwise seemingly harmless bill.</p><p>This why i say that without a written constitution there are no boundaries with which the government must comply as they govern the country.</p><p></p><p>The police and the armed forces are bound by their oath to the crown to comply with whatever Her Majesties Government tells them to do, so my statement of the full support of the armed forces and the police was given in the wrong context.</p><p></p><p>Anyway this started out as a thread about the injustices of CPO and has turned into an insight into British constitutional issues, judging by your writings you know more about then i do but these are just my interpretations of what is going on in this country,</p><p>Hopefully in the future there will be an aspect of british Law and politics on which we can agree, but thanks for the input, after all that is what makes good debate. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif</p><p></p><p>Ian</p><p></p><p>"I meant to shoot the pike but the duck got in the way"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Centre Punch, post: 83509, member: 3048"] Hey Matt I hope you have another Friday afternoon free cos boy could we sink some beer's and have one hell of a debate, we could bring Pete Lincoln in on it as well and my mate Jonse'y for a real anti government view and his wife's a copper! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I have always felt more of a subject then a citizen and what is written in our passports, to me is a term, rather then a fact. Thanks for the History reminder but in my opinion these past statutes, charters and documents are'nt worth the "Parchment" they are written on and as far as i am concerned an unwritten constitution is NO constitution at all. [ QUOTE ] No person shall be... deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law. [/ QUOTE ] All of the above have been contravened at one time or another, so even if we did have one it would have ignored by a government that does what it wants, especially the government of Mr Blair. If there is something this government does not like which is not covered by a specific law, they will invent one to cover it and tack it on to the end of some otherwise seemingly harmless bill. This why i say that without a written constitution there are no boundaries with which the government must comply as they govern the country. The police and the armed forces are bound by their oath to the crown to comply with whatever Her Majesties Government tells them to do, so my statement of the full support of the armed forces and the police was given in the wrong context. Anyway this started out as a thread about the injustices of CPO and has turned into an insight into British constitutional issues, judging by your writings you know more about then i do but these are just my interpretations of what is going on in this country, Hopefully in the future there will be an aspect of british Law and politics on which we can agree, but thanks for the input, after all that is what makes good debate. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Ian "I meant to shoot the pike but the duck got in the way" [/QUOTE]
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