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<blockquote data-quote="entoptics" data-source="post: 1542135" data-attributes="member: 104268"><p>I would add one caveat to the "get a lower power" torrent of comments.</p><p></p><p>I believe the scope in question (Argos BTR) has an illuminated reticle. This can be used at very close range as an "occluded red dot" with practice.</p><p></p><p>With plenty of dry fire and live round practice, you can learn to shoot the scope "both eyes open" like a red dot on an AR15 or pistol. The right eye will see nothing but a nebulous image of elk fur, but the left eye will easily compensate, and it will be like shooting with no magnification.</p><p></p><p>There are a couple of serious issues to consider with this though...</p><p></p><p>1) Battery life. You'll want to leave the illumination on constantly, as the short shots usually happen quickly, and you'll want it at a relatively high power (both illumination and magnification) for good "dot" visibility. Bring spare batteries and check frequently to ensure it hasn't gone dead on you.</p><p></p><p>2A) Eye relief. Athlon states 3.3" for the BTR. This is CLOSE for a magnum rifle, and snap shooting it like a red dot will make the eye box hard to find. PRACTICE! </p><p></p><p>2B) Eye relief. This will also mean that in a quick and dirty situation, you may come up real close, and end up with a fashionable crescent shaped scar above your right eye. BE CAREFUL! I've seen a couple cases of "Scope Eye" that nearly warranted stitches. In one, the guy was dazed enough to drop his rifle and end up on his knees mumbling gibberish for a minute or two.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="entoptics, post: 1542135, member: 104268"] I would add one caveat to the "get a lower power" torrent of comments. I believe the scope in question (Argos BTR) has an illuminated reticle. This can be used at very close range as an "occluded red dot" with practice. With plenty of dry fire and live round practice, you can learn to shoot the scope "both eyes open" like a red dot on an AR15 or pistol. The right eye will see nothing but a nebulous image of elk fur, but the left eye will easily compensate, and it will be like shooting with no magnification. There are a couple of serious issues to consider with this though... 1) Battery life. You'll want to leave the illumination on constantly, as the short shots usually happen quickly, and you'll want it at a relatively high power (both illumination and magnification) for good "dot" visibility. Bring spare batteries and check frequently to ensure it hasn't gone dead on you. 2A) Eye relief. Athlon states 3.3" for the BTR. This is CLOSE for a magnum rifle, and snap shooting it like a red dot will make the eye box hard to find. PRACTICE! 2B) Eye relief. This will also mean that in a quick and dirty situation, you may come up real close, and end up with a fashionable crescent shaped scar above your right eye. BE CAREFUL! I've seen a couple cases of "Scope Eye" that nearly warranted stitches. In one, the guy was dazed enough to drop his rifle and end up on his knees mumbling gibberish for a minute or two. [/QUOTE]
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