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<blockquote data-quote="RDM416" data-source="post: 407781" data-attributes="member: 3745"><p>tnshooter,</p><p></p><p>From your last post I would say we are getting getting down to the issue at hand...... stock bedding and proper action screw torque and procedure. Like the previous post said...... bed that stock with some Devcon and your problem will most likely go away..... </p><p></p><p>As for the ethics stuff......... Some of the posts were a little tongue in cheek..... others may have been a little presumptuous of your skill/experience level. For my part, I did not mean to offend. Like the "loaders loft" said, you just asked a simple technical question and somehow the thread turned into an ethics session rather than just dealing with the problem you were having. </p><p></p><p>Hopefully, we have answered your initial question and you will be able to get that rifle performing up to it's potential. </p><p></p><p>Now, just a little defense of the ethics stuff....... Most (if not all) of us have run into the "long range wannabe's" at hunting camp, the range, etc...... They will tell anyone who will listen that they can "kill a deer" at 500 or 600 yards, but just a little observation shows they have neither the knowledge or equipment to make such a shot. Usually there is some story of how they held "just over that deer's back at 600 yards offhand".........</p><p></p><p>We have all met these guys and it gives "long range hunting" a bad name. They call themselves long range hunters and will shoot at anything no matter how far, what the conditions, etc, until they either hit it or run out of bullets. </p><p></p><p>Then when someone shows up at an elk outfitters camp who has the skill and equipment to make a 600 yard shot, the outfitter just rolls his eyes..... and thinks here we go again!</p><p></p><p>So, sometimes we can get a little wound up about "follow up shot questions" because the true "long range shooter" has the equipment, and skill to make the shot in front of him...... or he don't take it. There are no "poke and hope" shots. If you miss, there is a reason....... did I range it wrong, did I misread the wind, angle, did I screw up my dial in dope, etc. If the shot was a miss, you did something wrong, so the answer is NOT to just crank in another round in and try again. You figure out what went wrong, fix it, or decide the shot is out of range of your skill level and stand down.</p><p></p><p>Yes, follow up shots at animals with a bad hit may need to be quick with just a guess at the dope, but those should be the exception rather than the rule. </p><p></p><p>Don't mean to preach Tnshooter, but that is why the topic of "follow up shots" can get a little out of hand sometimes....... Good luck on the rifle and keep up the posts, let us know how she shoots when you get the bedding job done...... I for one will try to not be judgmental the next time!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RDM416, post: 407781, member: 3745"] tnshooter, From your last post I would say we are getting getting down to the issue at hand...... stock bedding and proper action screw torque and procedure. Like the previous post said...... bed that stock with some Devcon and your problem will most likely go away..... As for the ethics stuff......... Some of the posts were a little tongue in cheek..... others may have been a little presumptuous of your skill/experience level. For my part, I did not mean to offend. Like the "loaders loft" said, you just asked a simple technical question and somehow the thread turned into an ethics session rather than just dealing with the problem you were having. Hopefully, we have answered your initial question and you will be able to get that rifle performing up to it's potential. Now, just a little defense of the ethics stuff....... Most (if not all) of us have run into the "long range wannabe's" at hunting camp, the range, etc...... They will tell anyone who will listen that they can "kill a deer" at 500 or 600 yards, but just a little observation shows they have neither the knowledge or equipment to make such a shot. Usually there is some story of how they held "just over that deer's back at 600 yards offhand"......... We have all met these guys and it gives "long range hunting" a bad name. They call themselves long range hunters and will shoot at anything no matter how far, what the conditions, etc, until they either hit it or run out of bullets. Then when someone shows up at an elk outfitters camp who has the skill and equipment to make a 600 yard shot, the outfitter just rolls his eyes..... and thinks here we go again! So, sometimes we can get a little wound up about "follow up shot questions" because the true "long range shooter" has the equipment, and skill to make the shot in front of him...... or he don't take it. There are no "poke and hope" shots. If you miss, there is a reason....... did I range it wrong, did I misread the wind, angle, did I screw up my dial in dope, etc. If the shot was a miss, you did something wrong, so the answer is NOT to just crank in another round in and try again. You figure out what went wrong, fix it, or decide the shot is out of range of your skill level and stand down. Yes, follow up shots at animals with a bad hit may need to be quick with just a guess at the dope, but those should be the exception rather than the rule. Don't mean to preach Tnshooter, but that is why the topic of "follow up shots" can get a little out of hand sometimes....... Good luck on the rifle and keep up the posts, let us know how she shoots when you get the bedding job done...... I for one will try to not be judgmental the next time! [/QUOTE]
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