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<blockquote data-quote="Mysticplayer" data-source="post: 23590" data-attributes="member: 8947"><p>Monte, I think you have answered your own question. All barrels take a while to break in and you have done that. Now the normal roughness of the barrel is being experienced. The barrel shoots well once it has been fouled. Fine, just don't bother cleaning it as long as accuracy is there and there is no risk of corrosion. I mean...don't clean it ever. There is no rule if rifledom that says you have to clean your rifle. </p><p></p><p>I used to shoot a lot of smallbore silhouette and we almost never clean our barrels. The fouling got to a balance where one or two shots at the beginning of the match would settle everything down and the guns would shoot all day. Whenever these rifles were cleaned, several clips would have to be shot in order to get the barrel back on track.</p><p></p><p>Another area that you could be causing problems is twist rate of barrel. It would not surprise me that your barrel is a 1 in 12 twist or slower. That could lead to lack of stability for the 185VLD bullets and shooting patterns. That would explain why the 155 are shooting so well. They love 1 in 13 to 12 twists.</p><p></p><p>Don't over clean you gun. Just do it cause it needs to. I would suggest going to Barnes CR10 and just cleaning enough to get the accuracy back. Chances are every time you clean you are going too far thus you need all those fouling shots to settle the barrel.</p><p></p><p>I have two very accurate rifles that copper foul so bad the barrel look like copper pipes. Both will shoot sub MOA until I clean them, then they take up to a dozen shots to settle back down. At which time, the barrel looks like copper pipe again. End result is I don't clean them unless I am storing them or they get wet.</p><p></p><p>Firelapping may work but why waste time and money. Would add a lot of extra wear on the throat too.</p><p></p><p>Moly may help but it will not stop the copper fouling completely. I use moly bullets exclusively and the barrels are still copper fouling. Avoid the wax coating as I believe this can cause neg. fouling and burnt residue in the throats. I use moly simple because it is easy to apply (midway tumbling system) and costs next to nothing. Does help in very rough barrels too.</p><p></p><p>Enjoy...</p><p></p><p>Jerry</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mysticplayer, post: 23590, member: 8947"] Monte, I think you have answered your own question. All barrels take a while to break in and you have done that. Now the normal roughness of the barrel is being experienced. The barrel shoots well once it has been fouled. Fine, just don't bother cleaning it as long as accuracy is there and there is no risk of corrosion. I mean...don't clean it ever. There is no rule if rifledom that says you have to clean your rifle. I used to shoot a lot of smallbore silhouette and we almost never clean our barrels. The fouling got to a balance where one or two shots at the beginning of the match would settle everything down and the guns would shoot all day. Whenever these rifles were cleaned, several clips would have to be shot in order to get the barrel back on track. Another area that you could be causing problems is twist rate of barrel. It would not surprise me that your barrel is a 1 in 12 twist or slower. That could lead to lack of stability for the 185VLD bullets and shooting patterns. That would explain why the 155 are shooting so well. They love 1 in 13 to 12 twists. Don't over clean you gun. Just do it cause it needs to. I would suggest going to Barnes CR10 and just cleaning enough to get the accuracy back. Chances are every time you clean you are going too far thus you need all those fouling shots to settle the barrel. I have two very accurate rifles that copper foul so bad the barrel look like copper pipes. Both will shoot sub MOA until I clean them, then they take up to a dozen shots to settle back down. At which time, the barrel looks like copper pipe again. End result is I don't clean them unless I am storing them or they get wet. Firelapping may work but why waste time and money. Would add a lot of extra wear on the throat too. Moly may help but it will not stop the copper fouling completely. I use moly bullets exclusively and the barrels are still copper fouling. Avoid the wax coating as I believe this can cause neg. fouling and burnt residue in the throats. I use moly simple because it is easy to apply (midway tumbling system) and costs next to nothing. Does help in very rough barrels too. Enjoy... Jerry [/QUOTE]
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