Cleaning with a jag - what patch do you use?

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by Dr. Vette, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. Dr. Vette

    Dr. Vette Well-Known Member

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    I have a question.

    I've read all about cleaning with a carbon rod and a jag. OK, I understand the concept and I've purchased a jag kit (Tipton nickel plated), bore guide and a rod. However, any patch I use that is "supposed" to fit a certain size (e.g. the bag says "30 caliber" and I'm cleaning a 30-06) won't fit. I put the patch on the end of the jag and as soon as the jag/patch combo hits the rifle lands, it's stuck. Any effort to push it further eventually pushes the jag through the patch and then I've got a nice big hole.

    There must be some incredibly obvious factor I've overlooked on "how to use a jag and patch." :D If someone could enlighten me I'd be most appreciative.

    Thanks!

    P.S. the Otis system works relatively well, and is my favorite the past few years, but for various reasons I want to be able to use the rod-and-patch system too.
     
  2. 300 ultra

    300 ultra Well-Known Member

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    i have the same issues so i cut the top third off the patch and have at her..
     

  3. kweidner

    kweidner Well-Known Member

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    +1 on cutting down the patch. Make sure it still is good and snug. Also make sure your guide is set up for the right caliber. Many say universal but come with different ends to fit different calibers. I use cotton flannel patches.
     
  4. Southpaw

    Southpaw Well-Known Member

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    Try using a jag one size under IE. .284 or .277

    This works in my little corner of the universe.
     
  5. MTBULLET

    MTBULLET Well-Known Member

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    uh, I don't cut the patch, just "offset" it. I mean, just don't center the patch on the jag, that way you still get a full, even contact with the bore .
     
  6. howard3

    howard3 Active Member

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    I use the same Tipton jag with all of my 30 cal rifles, and I use 2" round patches from Pro-Shot (item #2-500). No problems at all -- I think the round patches work much better than square ones.
     
  7. Dr. Vette

    Dr. Vette Well-Known Member

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    Thanks guys.

    I have cut down a patch or two when I was just trying to see what might work, and have not seen the round ones.
    Makes you wonder why patches labeled as 30 cal or 7mm or whatever don't work with the correct jags.
     
  8. WesB

    WesB Well-Known Member

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    Are you guys poking the jag through the patch? When I tried that they were too tight. If I use a jag I roll the patch around the jag and never have a problem. For my 7 mm mag I roll my patches around a 22-250 nylon brush and get a nice snug fit.
    Wes
     
  9. justgoto

    justgoto Well-Known Member

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    I use a t-shit. I rip strips off of it then cut sections to size according to thickness and strip width.
     
  10. Fitch

    Fitch Well-Known Member

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    The Tipton JAGs work great with round patches from Sinclair. I use that combination in all my rifles .22 Caliber and up.

    I don't use the nickel plated JAGs because I don't want hard nickel to be bumping the crown when the rod is pulled back.

    I use and recommend Mike Lucas's rod guides. I've tried them all and Lucas guides work the best for me.

    Best article I ever read on rifle bore cleaning is here: Bore Cleaning Method

    Fitch
     
  11. RT2506

    RT2506 Well-Known Member

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    I use Viva paper towels cut to the proper size and wrapped around a jag or a nylon brush one size smaller than the caliber. The blue paper shop towels that you can get on a roll at Wal-mart work great also. You can cut your patches while watching TV. Much cheaper than store bought cloth patches. They also work good using a loop but don't try to push them through with a jag by placing the jag in the center, they push through.