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Message: <blockquote data-quote="new2mud" data-source="post: 2192621" data-attributes="member: 24831">Makes sense.Here's an interesting wrench to throw into this discussion :I've got some virgin brass that were sold as seconds due to being drawn to max shoulder length. The ones I have shot have indeed been about 10 FPS slower than the same load in the same brass after it has been FL-sized and shoulder bumped about 0.020-0.030". So in this instance, the virgin brass is indeed slower than FL-dosed brass, but not because of reduced case capacity or energy being absorbed by shoulder growth, since the virgin brass is LONGER to the shoulder than the FL-sized brass. Thoughts?</blockquote>