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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 184999" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>BD408,</p><p> </p><p>I built 8 rifles last year using the ABS barrels and have another 6 ABS barrels sitting on the bench to be fitted and shipped yet this year, but that does not mean they were shipped in a timely manor or that I did not have to bother the hell out of them to get the barrels I personally ordered from them.</p><p> </p><p>Hell, on two of them, I told them I wanted to cancel the orders and get a refund, barrels showed up in a week or two, funny how that happens.</p><p> </p><p>Only problem, not on the Rock blanks we ordered and barrels were about 1.5 lbs heavier they they were advertised to be with the different barrel blank used. The 338 cal barrel blank I have in shop right now for a customers 338 Allen Magnum is only 6 oz lighter then my Lilja "Allen32" contour I use for my Xtreme Heavy Sporter rifles in that chambering which finish out at around 15.5 lbs bare weight. For nearly twice the money where is the advantage to these barrels, they are no where near as stiff as the all steel barrels, not even close when comparing same or even larger contour carbon barrels to an all steel, fluted barrel.</p><p> </p><p>I am sure you are a fan of these barrels, pretty much have to be to get your rifles down to the weights you advertise them to be. As far as accuracy and consistancy, I have no problems with the barrels, I have fitted and chambered a couple dozen ABS barrels that either I ordered or had sent to me by customers orders over the last couple years and every one has shot very well, easily breaking my 1/2 moa accuracy requirements but getting the barrels in a timely manor has been a serious frustration. And the fact that you do not get the barrel blank you ordered is troubling.</p><p> </p><p>The barrel Magicofmt is referring to was ordered Jan of 07. Well, that is when my Credit Card was charged for the deposit anyway. </p><p> </p><p>I believe you have mentioned that your close to their shop and have been there several times, maybe you being that close is why you get better service. Squeaky wheel thing.</p><p> </p><p>Anyway, your comments about getting 4 barrels from them last year means very little, as mentioned, I sent 8 rifles out last year with those barrels on them and I have 6 more in the shop to fit and send. That does not mean everyone I have ordered has not been a serious pain in the rear to get to my shop door and this comment has been echoed by MANY others.</p><p> </p><p>I know with your rifles, you are pretty dependant on these barrels so I would not expect any bad press from you. Not good for your business but your experience with them is not the norm in any way, in fact it is very rare from what I am hearing and experiencing.</p><p> </p><p>How long did it take you to get those 4 barrels from ABS, from order time to coming through your door?</p><p> </p><p>Kirby Allen(50)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 184999, member: 10"] BD408, I built 8 rifles last year using the ABS barrels and have another 6 ABS barrels sitting on the bench to be fitted and shipped yet this year, but that does not mean they were shipped in a timely manor or that I did not have to bother the hell out of them to get the barrels I personally ordered from them. Hell, on two of them, I told them I wanted to cancel the orders and get a refund, barrels showed up in a week or two, funny how that happens. Only problem, not on the Rock blanks we ordered and barrels were about 1.5 lbs heavier they they were advertised to be with the different barrel blank used. The 338 cal barrel blank I have in shop right now for a customers 338 Allen Magnum is only 6 oz lighter then my Lilja "Allen32" contour I use for my Xtreme Heavy Sporter rifles in that chambering which finish out at around 15.5 lbs bare weight. For nearly twice the money where is the advantage to these barrels, they are no where near as stiff as the all steel barrels, not even close when comparing same or even larger contour carbon barrels to an all steel, fluted barrel. I am sure you are a fan of these barrels, pretty much have to be to get your rifles down to the weights you advertise them to be. As far as accuracy and consistancy, I have no problems with the barrels, I have fitted and chambered a couple dozen ABS barrels that either I ordered or had sent to me by customers orders over the last couple years and every one has shot very well, easily breaking my 1/2 moa accuracy requirements but getting the barrels in a timely manor has been a serious frustration. And the fact that you do not get the barrel blank you ordered is troubling. The barrel Magicofmt is referring to was ordered Jan of 07. Well, that is when my Credit Card was charged for the deposit anyway. I believe you have mentioned that your close to their shop and have been there several times, maybe you being that close is why you get better service. Squeaky wheel thing. Anyway, your comments about getting 4 barrels from them last year means very little, as mentioned, I sent 8 rifles out last year with those barrels on them and I have 6 more in the shop to fit and send. That does not mean everyone I have ordered has not been a serious pain in the rear to get to my shop door and this comment has been echoed by MANY others. I know with your rifles, you are pretty dependant on these barrels so I would not expect any bad press from you. Not good for your business but your experience with them is not the norm in any way, in fact it is very rare from what I am hearing and experiencing. How long did it take you to get those 4 barrels from ABS, from order time to coming through your door? Kirby Allen(50) [/QUOTE]
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