Can a 30-06 shell be made into a 280 ackley

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  1. elmerdeer

    elmerdeer Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking of buying 30-06 Lapua brass and sizing it to 280 rem and then fireforming to a 280 ackley is this possible? and or recommended considering there is Nosler brass already formed?
    Thanks
    Elmer
     
  2. Ridge Runner

    Ridge Runner Well-Known Member

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    well it could work but the 30-06 is .046" shorter than the 280, I've heard good things about the nosler 280 AI brass, but my experiences with using nosler to form 6.5 Gibbs cases (270 win.) has been horrible.
    If it were me I'd use win 280 cases or norma 270's and neck up to .308, resize to 280 and fireform.
    RR
     
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  3. Winchester 69

    Winchester 69 Well-Known Member

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  4. muleyman

    muleyman Well-Known Member

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    I used the Nosler brass for my 280AI. Have not had any problems with any, they were pretty consistent weights and looked nice, shiny and new when opened. I did however chamfer the cases just a smidge more. They have only been reloaded twice and were slightly pricey, but when I figured in time and the cost of fireforming, it equaled out....
     
  5. phorwath

    phorwath Well-Known Member

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    Yes you can. I do exactly as you have proposed doing. I'm using 30-06 Lapua brass necked down and fire formed to my 280 AI chamber. I have 99 fire-formed and ready to go. (Lost one of them).
     
  6. Winchester 69

    Winchester 69 Well-Known Member

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    How does the length work out for you? This is posted on another forum, and some responders say that the brass will be short by 0.050". I would think that the reforming process would lengthen it sufficiently.
     
  7. phorwath

    phorwath Well-Known Member

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    I'll measure the case lengths of some of my fire-formed brass and add to this post, providing some case length data. I'm not aware that a shorter case neck will substantially degrade accuracy, provided all the cases are trimmed to the same length. There's plenty of case neck length to hold the bullets securely in the case.
     
  8. phorwath

    phorwath Well-Known Member

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    OK, I measured about 14 of the fire-formed cases. The vary from 2.455" to 2.483", with most of them between 2.460" and 2.470" in length. I have not trimmed these to a uniform case length yet.

    Also, some of these cases were fire-formed by another individual. If you don't have a bullet firmly held in the neck and jammed into the lands when you're fire-forming, the case length can grow because the case head may not be firmly held against the face of the bolt when the firing pin strikes the primer. I'd guess the ones I fire-formed are more in the 2.455" to 2.465" in case length, after fire-forming but before trimming to a uniform case length. Hope this helps you decide if you want to go this route or not. gun)
     
  9. Winchester 69

    Winchester 69 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for your trouble. I was curious as to whether reducing the neck diameter would contribute sufficiently to the length. I guess blowing the shoulder forward compromised the growth.
     
  10. phorwath

    phorwath Well-Known Member

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    In case anyone is interested:

    I recently fireformed 99 Lapua 30-06 cases to 280 AI.

    After fireforming, I trimmed 88 of these Lapua cases to a length of 2.463".

    There were 11 of the 99 fireformed cases that were slightly shorter than this trim-to length.