Caliber Choice for short Action???

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by DontBlink, Jul 29, 2010.

  1. DontBlink

    DontBlink Active Member

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    Hey Everyone,

    I am new to this site. I have always wanted to get into long range hunting and now I am finally going to do it. I have a savage model 10 short action in 7mm-08 that I will be building from. My dilemma is whether to stay with the 7-08 or to change to a different short action caliber. I will be mainly chasing pronghorn, deer, elk and black bear. I figure with the 7-08 that I would limit myself to 800 yds for deer and pronghorn and 600 yards for black bear and elk. Am I underestimating the long range capability of the 7-08? Is there a different short action caliber that I could switch to that could stretch out my distance a little further. I will be doing my own reloadig if that helps with anything. Also I thought I might list what I am going to be building my rifle with.

    1. Barrel by Shilen or Pac Nor (haven't decided yet)
    2. Gun Stock by Stockade
    3.Trigger by Sharp Shooter
    4. Action by savage

    Scope has still yet to be determined

    Any advice would be great right now. Thanks:)
     

  2. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    I like all the choices thus far. Is it an older Savage that does not have the Accu-trigger? Just make sure that when you get the new stock that you get pillars put in for the action and have it bedded with Devcon or the like. I think for what you want to do, you should stick with the 7mm-08 to start. If you are hand loading, then using the 168 Berger or 162 Hornady A-max over top of H4350 or RL17 will give you the performance you are looking for.

    7-08 in my opinion is highly underrated and one of the biggest lovers of .308 Winny (J.E. Custom) is going in the same direction for the same purposes (essentially). Both barrels you have chosen will do just fine. Make sure you get a 1:9 or faster to handle the heavier pills. Make sure you try using Mag primers as well as Large rifle to ensure your best burn and fps with the lowest ES and SD.

    As far as glass is concerned, make sure you get the best you can afford. Leupy, Night Force, Nikon Tactical, Horus and S&B will be on the top of the list. If those are out of the question, then the Leupy VX series, Nikon Monarch series, Burris Full Field series, Sightron SIII, Vortex, Nikon Buckmaster series and Bushnell Elite series should be the next to look at. Have fun and take your time looking at what is out there.

    Tank
     

  3. kiwi3006

    kiwi3006 Well-Known Member

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    Because Elk are one of your targets have you thought of the 7WSM or 7 SAUM. They will launch the 162 a-max or 168 Berger at around 3000 fps from a 24 - 26" barrel. That will extend your range on all the game you listed.

    If you don't want to stick with 7mm then the 300 WSM would just about have to be the perfect short action calibre, with elk in mind.

    Stu.
     
  4. DontBlink

    DontBlink Active Member

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    Thanks Tank for all the advice. You were right on the savage action being an older one. It was my first rifle I bought back in 2000 and it does not have the accu-trigger. Sharp Shooters said that their trigger will work on the action.

    For Glass I have been looking at the Nikon Tactical with the 50mm lens. I am a big fan of Nikon so I am really leaning towards them. I think with that scope paired with one of the calibers mentioned I will be ready to send bullets out to 800 yds.

    Thanks guys for all your input. Hopefully I will have this rifle setup in no time. I will post pics when its finished.:)
     
  5. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

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    Well I'll give the 270 WSM a plug, deer and elk can not deny it's awesomeness :D
     
  6. geargrinder

    geargrinder Well-Known Member

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    You didn't require it to be a repeater, so I'll vote for a single shot 338 Edge.

    Here's my short action Savage with a Stockade stock. I went with a little different trigger. Rifle Basix Sav-2.

    Barrel is a 32" Stainless fluted McGowan chambered and threaded by Sin Arms.

    [​IMG]
     
  7. squirrelduster

    squirrelduster Well-Known Member

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    Since you are planning on changing the barrel and using a Stockade stock have Kevin true it and time and put a Benchmark barrel on it.
    His service is excellent. I had him work on my rifle and was very impressed.
     
  8. Eaglet

    Eaglet Well-Known Member

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    32" Hey! 32"... Hummm... Why mine only has 28"... :-( Why? We are changing barrels.... that's it!!! I got it!!! Ha..ha..ha.... That's it!!! lightbulb That thing should
    be shooting close to 2900 fts... I used to like you! :rolleyes:
     
  9. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    Another thing to consider with your barrel is length. For a custom rig using the slower powders for the heavier bullets, you would benefit greatly with a 26" to 28" barrel. This would offer good velocity and efficiency in its burn. Just did a little poking around, and looks like a 1:9 would be optimum. Berger says 1:10 for a 168grn and I believe the 162 A-max likes a 1:9. Some of our Aussie/Kiwi brothers would know better. They really like shooting the A-max's and Accubonds.

    Tank
     
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  10. winmag

    winmag Well-Known Member

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    Ill second that. And put a plug in for the whole WSM family over a 7-08, or a 308 out to ranges of 700-800 yds on critters, there isnt even a contest.
    If youve got a short action and wanna lay the smack down on critters at long range, then why handicap yourself? Go with a WSM.
     
  11. 700varmint

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    gotta plug the 6.5 rem mag with a 1:8 twist very close to the 264 win mag and does have a level of nostalgia
     
  12. geargrinder

    geargrinder Well-Known Member

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    If I remember correctly, the only reason I bought the 32" was to give to you since I messed up on your 28". But you wanted to keep the 28".

    I used to like you too.:D
     
  13. Russ Hatch

    Russ Hatch Well-Known Member

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    Tank, my old style Ruger 7 mm Mauser with a 1 in 9 barrel loves those 162 gr A-Max bullets.The average for ten 300 yd groups is 1.7 inches.
    Russ
     
  14. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the conformation. I figured as much. I think that is the twist I was going to go with when considering a 7mm build.

    Tank