Burris Veracity 4-20x50mm Riflescope w/ Ballistic E1 FFP Reticle

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by FEENIX, Feb 17, 2014.

  1. FEENIX

    FEENIX Well-Known Member

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    http://www.burrisoptics.com/veracity4x20x.html

    Didn't find much reviews out and wondering if LRH members have any hands on experience to pass on. Bruce Ventura mentioned it briefly on one of the threads (can't remember where?) ... hopefully, he'll chime in too.

    Looks promising and have features I was looking for at the price range. It will be used primarily for big game hunts 1000 yards and closer.

    Thank you in advance.

    Ed
     
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  2. Browninglover1

    Browninglover1 Well-Known Member

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    They haven't shipped yet. I too am very interested in seeing these in person.
     

  3. bruce_ventura

    bruce_ventura Well-Known Member

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    I spent some time at the Burris booth at the SHOT Show looking at the Veracity and XTR-II scopes. I came away pretty excited. The Veracity model line is changing my attitude toward FFP for hunting. I recall that both scope lines are made in the Philippines at a different factory than where the Fullfield-based models are made. Here is a synopsis.

    Burris tends to leverage a single optical design for multiple scope model lines. Burris has taken that to the extreme with the E1 optical designs. AFAIK, XTR II and Veracity models of the same magnification use the same optics as well. I spent more time looking at the Veracity models because I like the multi-purpose reticle designs. The Veracity scopes were typical of Burris optical quality: good resolution, high contrast, and no tunneling in the erector over 5:1 zoom ratio. I also recall seeing no obscuration at low magnification when the elevation was rotated to the limit.

    All of the Veracity scopes have MOA/MOA reticle and turrets. The E1 FFP reticle on the 2-10X and 3-15X models seems like a good compromise between low mag visibility of the thick lines, and minimal obstruction of the scene at high mag. The tapered hick lines should be effective at drawing your eye to the center in low light when the magnification is set to a low value. I think the modified E1 FFP Varmint reticle on the 4-20X and 5-25X models is an excellent long range MOA/MOA set-up. It has more windage hold-off marks on the crosshair than the E1 FFP reticle.

    The BDC hold-offs enable quick short range shots up to about 600 yds, although I really prefer BDC reticles in the SFP position so that I can force the hold off lines to fall on even ranges vales like 300, 400, 500 yds, etc., by using the zoom ring to "calibrate" the reticle.

    The turret clicks were stiffer than the E1 scopes, but not as sharp as some others I've felt. The zero stop was excellent, but I did not have a chance to pull the knobs off to inspect the mechanism. I recall the knob had unlimited rotation above zero.
     
  4. FEENIX

    FEENIX Well-Known Member

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    Bruce,

    As always, you come to the rescue with tons of expertise on this subject matter. I've always enjoy your insight and value your opinion.

    Thanks again,

    Ed
     
  5. bruce_ventura

    bruce_ventura Well-Known Member

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    Thanks. I got a head start trading pms with Justin (browninglover1).

    I'm anxious to do a more lengthy evaluation when these scopes start shipping (soon, I hope). Meanwhile, I like what I'm seeing from Burris.

    Burris has been in a long transformation since being purchased by Berretta over ten years ago. They bought Steiner in 2008 and helped them introduce a number of new mid and high end rifle scopes. Until this this year Burris had dropped about as many rifle scope models as they introduced. Most of their new scopes were derived from the E1 mechanical and optical designs. Very good scopes, but none of them above a $500 street price. Without any explanation, they dropped some $500-1,000 models. Given the steep competition in the rifle scope market with upcomers like Vortex, I was really wondering where this company was headed.

    Then they hit one out of the park with the XTR II and Veracity models, covering tactical and long range hunting markets with one set of new optical designs. That is a big investment on the part of Burris, and represents a big move into those markets.

    If these new scopes are up to Burris' prior engineering standards, which I think they are, they should do well in the market place. In terms of optical performance, these scopes seem to fit in between the Vortex PST and Razor model lines. The pricing is close to PST pricing. I think these scopes are going to take a bite out of Vortex sales.
     
  6. FEENIX

    FEENIX Well-Known Member

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    Awesome! I look forward for the thorough evaluation!

    Bruce and Justin, thanks!
     
  7. clamb4

    clamb4 Well-Known Member

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    I ordered two Veracity 4 x 20 x 50 scopes a while ago and called today to see when they would ship. Burris estimates the middle of March. Will let you know what I think of them after I have had time to get them mounted and tested.
     
  8. FEENIX

    FEENIX Well-Known Member

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    Cool! Looking forward to it. Thanks!

    Ed
     
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    Anybody heard of prices for these yet?
     
  10. Browninglover1

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    clamb4 Well-Known Member

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    Called Burris again today to ask when the Veracity line will start shipping and they told me the middle of April. Things change?
     
  12. Akkill

    Akkill Well-Known Member

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    hahaha, the game just get started compadre, I hope will be a short one.
     
  13. FEENIX

    FEENIX Well-Known Member

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    Just checking in for any update. Thanks!
     
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    I got ahold of a 5-25 yesterday at the lgs. FFP, I think that I liked the reticle pretty well, it was the MOA version, different than I am used to, but I could get used to it pretty easy. I really liked the side parallax adjustment better than any other I have come across. I played with the turrets a little; the zero stop seemed pretty decent, but I did not like the clicks much. They were audible, but the 'feel' was pretty mushy on that one. Not sure if I would spend the 1250$ for that one, but would consider the 4-20x listed at 900$.