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<blockquote data-quote="Turpentine21" data-source="post: 2929420" data-attributes="member: 124909"><p>Between my brother and I we have accounted for well over 1000 kills very conservatively on whitetail deer and hogs. I started shoulder shooting deer 35 years ago after I got tired of tracking deer shot behind the shoulder in inhospitable terrain. Where I hunt if a deer goes 40 yards he can be very tough to recover. We have lots of water, alligators, and briars thick enough you have to crawl. Hogs are generally shot in the lower ear or head/neck junction. For a long time all I shot was Remington 130 grain corelokts from a 270 win. My brother shot a 7mm mag but has gone back to 270 and 6.5 Grendel. With a properly executed high shoulder shot the deer goes nowhere. Pulled forward and the deer is hit in the base of the neck. Pulled rearward the deer is hit in the crease and will usually run dead on his feet for an unknown distance. usually 30-100 yards. Pulled low at least one shoulder is disabled but many times both are. The deer may travel or push but not far at all. I'd rather have a dead deer with a little more meat damage than a dead deer I have to fight to recover. We have had to track many that were shot behind the shoulder with pretty much any bullet and caliber you care to name. We did have some issues with very early ballistic tips and Winchester ballistic silver tips with the older aluminum looking tip. They would blow up At high speed and not penetrate. Also had some long And weird tracking jobs for a friend shooting 300 Win mag with 150 and 165 corelokt. My favorite bullet for big deer and hogs is the Nosler accubond and I also had really good luck with the Hornady interbond but it's a hard to find bullet. For depredation I shoot Hornady Eldm's in 123, Grendel, 147 or 140 in 6.5-06, 168 Amax in 308AR, and 150 accubond or 168 eldm from my 308 bolt with 26" barrel. If the farmer wants them dead in the field and doesn't mind recovery damage to crops I shoot shoulder. If he wants them out of the field dead with no crop damage they are shot behind the shoulder In the crease or pocket. We have had zero trouble with the Eldm used in this capacity but we are not shooting heavily muscled bucks. </p><p>As for hogs if you aren't going to shoot ear or neck be sure to shoot them no more than 1/2 way up the body and tight to the front leg. Preferably quartered away slightly. The shield on a mature male is thick. Hogs hit high bleed very little and can go a long way before expiring. For shots like this a tough bullet that will exit and help with a blood trail can be a help. But a heart shot hog generally won't travel far.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Turpentine21, post: 2929420, member: 124909"] Between my brother and I we have accounted for well over 1000 kills very conservatively on whitetail deer and hogs. I started shoulder shooting deer 35 years ago after I got tired of tracking deer shot behind the shoulder in inhospitable terrain. Where I hunt if a deer goes 40 yards he can be very tough to recover. We have lots of water, alligators, and briars thick enough you have to crawl. Hogs are generally shot in the lower ear or head/neck junction. For a long time all I shot was Remington 130 grain corelokts from a 270 win. My brother shot a 7mm mag but has gone back to 270 and 6.5 Grendel. With a properly executed high shoulder shot the deer goes nowhere. Pulled forward and the deer is hit in the base of the neck. Pulled rearward the deer is hit in the crease and will usually run dead on his feet for an unknown distance. usually 30-100 yards. Pulled low at least one shoulder is disabled but many times both are. The deer may travel or push but not far at all. I'd rather have a dead deer with a little more meat damage than a dead deer I have to fight to recover. We have had to track many that were shot behind the shoulder with pretty much any bullet and caliber you care to name. We did have some issues with very early ballistic tips and Winchester ballistic silver tips with the older aluminum looking tip. They would blow up At high speed and not penetrate. Also had some long And weird tracking jobs for a friend shooting 300 Win mag with 150 and 165 corelokt. My favorite bullet for big deer and hogs is the Nosler accubond and I also had really good luck with the Hornady interbond but it's a hard to find bullet. For depredation I shoot Hornady Eldm's in 123, Grendel, 147 or 140 in 6.5-06, 168 Amax in 308AR, and 150 accubond or 168 eldm from my 308 bolt with 26" barrel. If the farmer wants them dead in the field and doesn't mind recovery damage to crops I shoot shoulder. If he wants them out of the field dead with no crop damage they are shot behind the shoulder In the crease or pocket. We have had zero trouble with the Eldm used in this capacity but we are not shooting heavily muscled bucks. As for hogs if you aren't going to shoot ear or neck be sure to shoot them no more than 1/2 way up the body and tight to the front leg. Preferably quartered away slightly. The shield on a mature male is thick. Hogs hit high bleed very little and can go a long way before expiring. For shots like this a tough bullet that will exit and help with a blood trail can be a help. But a heart shot hog generally won't travel far. [/QUOTE]
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