bullets for 308 win

Discussion in 'The Basics, Starting Out' started by pjracer, Jan 20, 2008.

  1. pjracer

    pjracer Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    179
    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2008
    Newby here. I am currently working up loads for my 700 pss for long range deer hunting. I have berger vld 155, horn 150 sp, 150 ballistic tip. Has anyone used these bullets or can suggest something else?
     
  2. linksmechanic

    linksmechanic Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    668
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2007
    I shoot the berger 190's out of mine and love them. Excellent accuracy and they kill stuff bang flop.
     

  3. pjracer

    pjracer Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    179
    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2008
    bergers

    Will those stabilize out of a 1 in 12 twist barrel?
     
  4. landcbeitner

    landcbeitner Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    421
    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2008
    In a 1:12 twist the Berger 168gr VLD's will shoot well. Try them behind 42.5gr of IMR 4064 (very accurate).

    I have a 1:10 twist and use the Berger 185gr VLD's wich didn't shoot to hot with a 1:12 twist.

    Not sure how the 155gr Lapua Scenar does on deer but for target shooting I'm getting about 2900fps out of a 25" Shilen barrel with superb accuracy even beyond 700yds (45gr Varget *max is 44.8 according to Sierra manual) no pressure signs.
     
  5. linksmechanic

    linksmechanic Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    668
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2007
    land is right they won't stabilize in a 1:12 mine is a 1:10. I would try what he said the 168's.
     
  6. Rymart

    Rymart Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    215
    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2005
    FWIW, the 190 SMK's stabilize and shoot well out of my 1:11 twist 308 barrel.
     
  7. landcbeitner

    landcbeitner Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    421
    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2008
    Sweet, that's good to know. Sierra bullets seem to be much easier to develop consistant accurate loads for, plus mag feeding can become optional due to jump tollerance. The Berger VLD's are quite a bit longer than SMK's of the same weight, requiring a faster twist to fully stabilize. In fact I've found that BC is often a better indicator of needed twist over bullet weight. The 190gr SMK has a BC of .533 vs Bergers 190gr VLD's BC of ..574. Barnes Greenhill formula is a safe bet when in doubt. Although you can often get away with a slightly slower twist.

    Here's a line up of a few 308 bullets I've used (sorry it's blurry).
    [​IMG]
    They are in order of weight from left to right 155gr Lapua Scenar (.508 bc), 168gr Hornady A-max (.475 bc), 170gr Lapua Lock base (.525 bc), 175gr SMK (.505 bc) and the 185gr Berger VLD (556 bc).
     
  8. Greyfox

    Greyfox Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,708
    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2008
    308 Load

    [ I have had great luck with 165 gr Hornady SST's in my Rem 700 308. At 2700+ FPS I get 2 1/2' groups at 500 yards and about 1200 fp energy. The SST's are very accurate and have a higher BC(.495) than the Ballistic Tips.
     
  9. dmgreene

    dmgreene Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    157
    Joined:
    May 11, 2007
    A friend of mine has been useing Berger 155's in his 308 at 2800 fps and I have been impressed the damage these bullets are doing out to 500 yards.
     
  10. Nomosendero

    Nomosendero Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,079
    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2005
    Did that BC come from your personal tests? I am asking because Hornady says
    the BC is .447 in my 2007 catalog whereas Nosler claims .475 for the 165 BT. I am going to try the new 168BT, the BC for them is .490 I understand.