bullet testing.......

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by chucksniper, Jul 11, 2008.

  1. chucksniper

    chucksniper Well-Known Member

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    Any ideas for a material to test bullets for terminal performance?

    I used wet phone books, but sierra said it's too hard.
     
  2. BHP9

    BHP9 Well-Known Member

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    Google Ballistic Gelatin.

    There are recipes that use common household ingredients.
     

  3. chucksniper

    chucksniper Well-Known Member

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    I don't feel like dealing with that stuff.... the bullet test tube is a wax
    and that seems like less to deal with. But that's 70 bucks.

    I was reading about wet sand and saw dust.
     
  4. rocky_lange

    rocky_lange Well-Known Member

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    Jell-o. When your done, you can eat it.

    Okay, seriously, I was thinking about this last night myself. Plain gelatin, mixed thick should work fine. I think ballistics gelatin is great for seeing how a bullet performs, but I think it is too dense to represent how it performs on an animal.

    Although, my mind did wander to the idea of going to a local pig farm and buying 1 or 2 whole hogs, dead of course, but not gutted. And again, when your done, you can eat it.

    Rocky
     
  5. tackb

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    how about going out and shooting some deer? you'll get real terminal results!!
     
  6. tackb

    tackb Well-Known Member

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    seriously though, find a good bullet thats recommended by a friend or one that works for you already and then shoot it into some media of your choice, wet paper/wax/jelly/etc it doesn't really matter because all you can actually do is compare its performance against other bullets in the same media. I shot two deer once at the same range and in the same place with the same make of bullet from the same rifle within seconds of each other one was drt the other run maybe 50 metres ! what i'm trying to say is that when your shooting game there is too many variables to make any certain conclusions about bullet performance.
     
  7. chucksniper

    chucksniper Well-Known Member

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    I look at it this way.... if a bullet mushrooms, leaves a wound cavity
    of 6 or 7 inches long, 2 or 3 inches wide, continues on a foot or so
    through wet telephone books and is retreived than I suppose I'm in
    good shape. I know it'll do the same in a deer.
     
  8. Lightvarmint

    Lightvarmint Guest

    Hello,

    Cooled wet oatmeal. Then reheated to 100 to represent body temps.

    James
     
  9. chucksniper

    chucksniper Well-Known Member

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    I'll try it..light bulb light varmint.
     
  10. Charles A

    Charles A Well-Known Member

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    Temperature doesn't have anything to do with it- bullets can't tell the difference between 60 and 100 degrees.


    Newspaper, sand, oatmeal, etc, is not going to show anything about soft tissue disruption.
     
  11. Lightvarmint

    Lightvarmint Guest

    So, a ductility test at 60 degrees is the same at 100.... I don't think so. Ductility of metal changes with temperature. I have done enough heat ups and cooldowns of reactors, reactor pressure vessels, and just regular pressurizers and their associated components to over my 30 year nuclear career know and understand that even .1 degree changes the equation with respect to ductility and brittle fracture.

    However, my reference to temps of the oatmeal was joke that you obviously did not get.

    The scholarly response would have been what is the impact temperature of said bullet at say 3000 FPS?

    James
     
  12. BHP9

    BHP9 Well-Known Member

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    Then the next best (or better than gelatin) are PIGS.
     
  13. chucksniper

    chucksniper Well-Known Member

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    I guess I'll go out and buy a coulple of roasts!!;):D

    I went and bought a bunch of toilet bowl wax,... the bullet test tube is a wax test.
     
  14. edge

    edge Well-Known Member

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    OK, I'll bite!

    What is the ideal temperature to shoot a Whitetail deer, exactly 1/3 up the body and 1/2 inch behind the front leg in an 87 degree forward facing angle :)

    edge.