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Bullet lift, does it exist?
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<blockquote data-quote="bwaites" data-source="post: 176858" data-attributes="member: 8733"><p>Catshooter, </p><p> </p><p>Strange that you are so quick to point out this is "basic high school science", insinuating that all the ballisticians could get by with nothing more than a high school education.</p><p> </p><p>I'm trying to determine if there is evidence that lift actually occurs in bullets and you just want to insult someone who you believe is of inferior intelligence, someone who you know NOTHING about! Strange, isn't it?</p><p> </p><p>I'm not debating anything, you make the point yourself, lift only occurs if the bullet point is not in the line of travel. If it is around a horizontal angle, it is pitch, correct? If it is around a vertical angle, it is yaw, correct? So this would be pitch, a nose up attitude. BUT, not every bullet enters that nose up attitude, according to the militaries findings using the .50BMG as Kirby points out. AND, to top it off, twist rates have an effect on it, at least according to the study Kirby cites above.</p><p> </p><p>I think it is more complex than you want to make it be, and that spin rates, twist rates, velocity, etc. all have some effect. You want to try to make me look stupid, but you yourself decline to include those in the equation!</p><p> </p><p>Strange that the two physicists from the Department of Energy don't understand your "basic high school science"! They are, in fact, responding to a High School teachers question, who also apparently doesn't understand your "basic high school science"!</p><p> </p><p>Bill</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bwaites, post: 176858, member: 8733"] Catshooter, Strange that you are so quick to point out this is "basic high school science", insinuating that all the ballisticians could get by with nothing more than a high school education. I'm trying to determine if there is evidence that lift actually occurs in bullets and you just want to insult someone who you believe is of inferior intelligence, someone who you know NOTHING about! Strange, isn't it? I'm not debating anything, you make the point yourself, lift only occurs if the bullet point is not in the line of travel. If it is around a horizontal angle, it is pitch, correct? If it is around a vertical angle, it is yaw, correct? So this would be pitch, a nose up attitude. BUT, not every bullet enters that nose up attitude, according to the militaries findings using the .50BMG as Kirby points out. AND, to top it off, twist rates have an effect on it, at least according to the study Kirby cites above. I think it is more complex than you want to make it be, and that spin rates, twist rates, velocity, etc. all have some effect. You want to try to make me look stupid, but you yourself decline to include those in the equation! Strange that the two physicists from the Department of Energy don't understand your "basic high school science"! They are, in fact, responding to a High School teachers question, who also apparently doesn't understand your "basic high school science"! Bill [/QUOTE]
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