Bullet Choice for 300 wsm

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by Blacktail, Jan 22, 2008.

  1. Blacktail

    Blacktail Well-Known Member

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    I tried 168 tsx but only load that was fairly accurate was 63 gr of H4350 (3/4). Was wanting opinion for 150's (packing in for blacktail) and 168 or 180s for elk. Its a light gun with a pac-nor barrel 3 contour fluted and only 23". Any suggestions and powder choices would be great. Thank
     
  2. Ballistic64

    Ballistic64 Well-Known Member

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    You might try the 165 Accubonds,some guns just dont like Barnes bullets.They are also available in 150 gr.
     

  3. bgoldhunter

    bgoldhunter Well-Known Member

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    I'll second the Accubonds. Both 150 and 165 gr Accubonds shot very well from my 24" 300WSM using Magpro.
     
  4. kolt1

    kolt1 Member

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    I shoot the 168 gr Berger VLD backed by 64 gr of H380 at 3100 fps. This is in a 24" barrel. Groups are great and SD and ES over the chrony are pretty good. Hittin steel at 1125 yds with good results. And The Berger VLD is a great game stopper, shot my last four deer with them. Dropped in their tracks with a good high shoulder shot placement.
     
  5. mark308

    mark308 Well-Known Member

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    300wsm user

    my brother actually owns the gun. a win model70. he shoots hornady 150gr, I think its the sst. deadly on elk this year and devastating on deer. he loads 70-71grs of r-19. for 3300fps checked it with my crony. it will hold 3/4 -1/2 groups. sweet gun.
     
  6. WunderDog

    WunderDog Well-Known Member

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    Since you probably already have the bullets, you may want to try a load I have had great success with. I am shooting the 168gr TSX bullets behind 68 gr of H4831SC with Fed 215M. I am getting easy sub-inch groups out of my HS Precision handgun. I suspect the accuracy is even better than that but I am not. I have not run it over the chrony yet as the accuracy was all I was looking for but will this off season as I prep to shoot longer with that gun.
     
  7. Weda

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    Cartridge          : .300 WSM (CIP)
    Bullet             : .308, 168, Barnes 'TSX'BT 30844
    Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch or 72.64 mm
    Barrel Length      : 23.0 inch or 584.2 mm
    Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
    Matching Maximum Pressure: 64542 psi, or 445 MPa
    or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 100 %
    These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
    C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
    loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
    that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
    and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
    USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
    120 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
    Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                          %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
    ---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Ramshot Hunter                      97.7     68.6     4.44    3078    99.7    64542   13882   1.082  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Winchester 760                      95.2     66.4     4.30    3074    99.4    64542   13828   1.084  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Hodgdon H4350                      100.0     65.6     4.25    3066    99.8    63483   13555   1.082  ! Near Maximum !
    Vihtavuori N550                     97.5     65.6     4.25    3059   100.0    64542   13388   1.093  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Norma URP                          100.0     65.2     4.22    3051   100.0    63903   13189   1.093  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Norma 204                           99.8     67.9     4.40    3051    98.0    64542   13814   1.078  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Bofors RP19 ~approximation         100.0     65.2     4.22    3050   100.0    63844   13184   1.094  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Hodgdon H414                        91.5     64.3     4.17    3045    99.6    64542   13376   1.093  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Ramshot BigGame                     96.7     63.8     4.13    3040   100.0    64542   12683   1.088  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    SNPE Vectan SP 11                   93.8     63.9     4.14    3038   100.0    64542   12668   1.088  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    IMR 4895                            92.6     59.1     3.83    3028   100.0    64542   11823   1.072  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Alliant Reloder-15                  91.4     60.2     3.90    3021   100.0    64542   12424   1.094  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Raufoss RA11                        91.4     60.2     3.90    3021   100.0    64542   12424   1.094  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Bofors RP11 ~approximation          91.4     60.2     3.90    3021   100.0    64542   12424   1.094  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Norma 203B                          91.8     60.5     3.92    3017   100.0    64542   12326   1.096  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Hodgdon H380                        92.6     62.4     4.04    3013   100.0    64542   12667   1.098  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Somchem S365                       100.0     65.6     4.25    3007   100.0    59149   12660   1.131  ! Near Maximum !
    IMR 4320                            93.4     60.5     3.92    3005   100.0    64542   11990   1.081  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Norma 203 old                       92.9     61.9     4.01    3004   100.0    64542   12149   1.109  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Rottweil R903                       97.8     61.9     4.01    2999   100.0    64542   12054   1.109  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Somchem S355                        95.2     61.4     3.98    2996   100.0    64542   12067   1.103  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Rottweil R907                       97.6     63.2     4.09    2993    98.9    64542   12794   1.094  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    IMR 4007 SSC                        94.6     63.2     4.10    2992    98.9    64542   12787   1.094  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Hodgdon VARGET                      94.3     60.1     3.90    2987   100.0    64542   12008   1.085  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    ADI AR 2208                         94.0     60.1     3.90    2987   100.0    64542   12008   1.085  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    IMR 4064                            94.8     59.0     3.83    2979   100.0    64542   11743   1.090  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    IMR 3031                            90.6     55.8     3.62    2970   100.0    64542   11014   1.101  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Hodgdon H4895                       93.9     59.9     3.88    2969   100.0    64542   11337   1.089  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Bofors RP4 ~approximation          100.0     65.9     4.27    2959    97.1    58521   13395   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
    Raufoss RA4                        100.0     65.9     4.27    2959    97.1    58521   13395   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
    Accurate 4064                       96.6     59.5     3.86    2958   100.0    64542   11303   1.131  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Vihtavuori N540                     93.4     62.2     4.03    2953   100.0    64542   11751   1.097  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Rottweil R902                       91.4     58.1     3.76    2952   100.0    64542   11328   1.108  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Vihtavuori N150                     99.3     61.8     4.00    2944   100.0    64542   11231   1.103  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Accurate 4350                      100.0     63.0     4.09    2944    99.8    57050   12863   1.169  ! Near Maximum !
    Norma MRP                          100.0     68.8     4.46    2943    97.4    51199   14526   1.192
    Accurate 2700                       95.6     65.1     4.22    2942    98.8    64542   12122   1.098  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    ADI AR 2209                        100.0     65.6     4.25    2937    96.6    55584   13479   1.145  ! Near Maximum !
    Lovex S070                         100.0     64.8     4.20    2936    99.6    57381   12919   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
    Alliant Reloder-19                 100.0     65.9     4.27    2921    96.6    54651   13509   1.161
    Vihtavuori N140                     92.9     58.8     3.81    2921   100.0    64542   10694   1.102  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Vihtavuori N135                     96.6     57.7     3.74    2909   100.0    64542   10389   1.112  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Rottweil R904                      100.0     65.0     4.21    2904    95.8    57271   12876   1.142  ! Near Maximum !
    IMR 7828 SSC                       100.0     67.7     4.39    2900    94.0    51279   13963   1.183
    Somchem S385                       100.0     67.0     4.34    2896    97.6    55202   13085   1.178  ! Near Maximum !
    Bofors RP14 ~approximation         100.0     65.9     4.27    2893    96.3    53424   13317   1.174
    IMR 4350                           100.0     63.1     4.09    2891    95.7    55550   12907   1.159  ! Near Maximum !
    Vihtavuori N560                    100.0     67.3     4.36    2873    92.9    48947   14151   1.213
    ADI AR 2213                        100.0     66.6     4.32    2860    93.4    50055   13621   1.193
    Vihtavuori N133                     91.1     54.9     3.56    2857   100.0    64542    9739   1.103  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
    Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       100.0     66.6     4.32    2854    95.2    48498   13774   1.221
    Raufoss RA15                       100.0     66.6     4.32    2854    95.2    48498   13774   1.221
    Alliant Reloder-22                 100.0     66.6     4.32    2854    95.2    48498   13774   1.221
    IMR 4831                           100.0     63.1     4.09    2819    98.3    49768   12605   1.229
    Hodgdon H4831 SC                   100.0     66.6     4.32    2818    92.4    50830   12891   1.196
    Rottweil R905                      100.0     65.4     4.24    2779    92.1    46854   13011   1.240
    Winchester WXR                     100.0     65.2     4.22    2773    93.7    44710   13325   1.261
    IMR 7828                           100.0     64.1     4.15    2727    90.9    43079   12953   1.268
    Alliant Reloder-25                 100.0     65.6     4.25    2716    96.3    40478   13240   1.300
    Vihtavuori N165                    100.0     65.2     4.22    2711    94.9    45711   12019   1.259
    ADI AP 2214                        100.0     68.4     4.43    2707    90.7    43487   12888   1.263
    Hodgdon H4831                      100.0     64.1     4.15    2701    90.2    44946   12213   1.256
    Vihtavuori N160                    100.0     63.2     4.09    2701    92.7    46855   11747   1.248
    Accurate 3100                      100.0     62.3     4.04    2614    95.6    40644   11730   1.347
    Hodgdon H1000                      100.0     65.2     4.22    2549    87.1    37099   11871   1.347
    
     
  8. walrus58

    walrus58 New Member

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    Im A barnes bullet guy only, as I see so many folks come to me , as I am one of the reloading specialist, at Cabelas in WA, and from my own experience with them,, I dont like to eat lead anymore, they retain virtually 100 percent of their weight.... accuracy is extremely good. I did clean my barrels with JB bore polish, and it is a product I highly recommend, for anyone who is looking for the most accuracy from their gun.... if you use them and have accuracy issues, need to look at the JB bore cleaner and polish, it will make a world of differenced... walrus58

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  9. noneck180

    noneck180 Well-Known Member

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    I am pretty sure the OP has found a load in the 3 years since he posted this thread, resurrection perhaps?