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Building a 500 yards muzzleloader?
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<blockquote data-quote="BountyHunter" data-source="post: 30666" data-attributes="member: 12"><p>Think you find that most muzzleloaders are in the relatively light weight range 7 lbs. 150 gr of 777/Pyrodex is a stout load with a 250 shockwave. The 300 is even worse but has knockdown for large game such as elk.</p><p></p><p>Could make an arguement that the 200 is on the light side and low BS. Tried it and did not like it compared to the 250 in MY gun. The 250 has a BC of around .200 if I remember right. </p><p></p><p>I shot the 26" encore 209x50 with 100 gr 777 and it shot 1" with MV of almost 1800 pfs. 150 gr of 777 left it at MV of 2200 and groups of around 2.2". Took 3 deer out to 170 yards this year with it, all one shots each.</p><p></p><p>Do not have my figures in front of me, but I remember it was zero at 100 and about 14" low at 200 and 36-45" at 300 with 250 shockwave and 100 gr 777. Ran the figures for 150gr and it was not worth the larger groups, higher ES and recoil in my opinion.</p><p></p><p>Got a good friend that tried the Savage smokeless and he is averaging the same as me. So not sure what advantage you have when compared to 777 and not being able to use smokeless muzzleloaders everywhere.</p><p></p><p>Now if someone is building one of a kind ULR muzzleloaders that weight 15 + lbs and knows enough to make it smokeless (safely and you want to take the risk) then all bets are off.</p><p></p><p>Rangefinders are absolute must over 150 yards. </p><p></p><p>BH</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BountyHunter, post: 30666, member: 12"] Think you find that most muzzleloaders are in the relatively light weight range 7 lbs. 150 gr of 777/Pyrodex is a stout load with a 250 shockwave. The 300 is even worse but has knockdown for large game such as elk. Could make an arguement that the 200 is on the light side and low BS. Tried it and did not like it compared to the 250 in MY gun. The 250 has a BC of around .200 if I remember right. I shot the 26" encore 209x50 with 100 gr 777 and it shot 1" with MV of almost 1800 pfs. 150 gr of 777 left it at MV of 2200 and groups of around 2.2". Took 3 deer out to 170 yards this year with it, all one shots each. Do not have my figures in front of me, but I remember it was zero at 100 and about 14" low at 200 and 36-45" at 300 with 250 shockwave and 100 gr 777. Ran the figures for 150gr and it was not worth the larger groups, higher ES and recoil in my opinion. Got a good friend that tried the Savage smokeless and he is averaging the same as me. So not sure what advantage you have when compared to 777 and not being able to use smokeless muzzleloaders everywhere. Now if someone is building one of a kind ULR muzzleloaders that weight 15 + lbs and knows enough to make it smokeless (safely and you want to take the risk) then all bets are off. Rangefinders are absolute must over 150 yards. BH [/QUOTE]
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