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Browning X-Bolt or Winchester M70?
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<blockquote data-quote="idaho elk hunter" data-source="post: 929197" data-attributes="member: 68226"><p>Here is another typical thread.. This VS That! Everyone states there success or non success with the products in question. Then of coarse the thread goes sideways ( hijacked) with someone that puts what they are using that is not even in the original question. Is this not the way this really works? Could we really see if we could stay to the engineering side of things like the strength, accuracy, cost, reliability, ease of use etc. Actual things that determine what makes the best what the best is.</p><p> </p><p>Lets face it.. Mauser developed the modern day bolt action of nearly all bolt actions. Other manufactures changed a little to there own thoughts to their liking and marketing ideas.</p><p> </p><p>Browning did more firearms designs than anyone in history. Semi autos, military, foreign country's. and for other manufactures including his major customer. WINCHESTER!</p><p> </p><p>Roy is the father of todays high power magnums and long range true magnums to handle high pressures in a action. Weatherby still has the strongest action on the market today.</p><p> </p><p>Kalishkanov (sp) another well known designer going into the history book is a COMMIE. I could never respect the man that designed the weapons to fight against the beliefs and blood that my country is.</p><p> </p><p>Ruger just used everyone else's designs that the patent ran out on. M77 is a Mauser, Revolvers a mostly Colt, Mini 14 is the military M14. No 1 is another knock off. ETC. Just a cheap copy cat.</p><p> </p><p>Remington , Tikka, all the others, ETC..ETC.. on and on we go.</p><p> </p><p>Here are the facts. no opinions here. any doubters need to check these statements on Google and form there opinions.</p><p> </p><p>Both manufactures in question have experienced the typical mass manufacturing issues with their product. Some outshoot customs and some shoot like a shotgun. Some have warranty and some last forever.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="idaho elk hunter, post: 929197, member: 68226"] Here is another typical thread.. This VS That! Everyone states there success or non success with the products in question. Then of coarse the thread goes sideways ( hijacked) with someone that puts what they are using that is not even in the original question. Is this not the way this really works? Could we really see if we could stay to the engineering side of things like the strength, accuracy, cost, reliability, ease of use etc. Actual things that determine what makes the best what the best is. Lets face it.. Mauser developed the modern day bolt action of nearly all bolt actions. Other manufactures changed a little to there own thoughts to their liking and marketing ideas. Browning did more firearms designs than anyone in history. Semi autos, military, foreign country's. and for other manufactures including his major customer. WINCHESTER! Roy is the father of todays high power magnums and long range true magnums to handle high pressures in a action. Weatherby still has the strongest action on the market today. Kalishkanov (sp) another well known designer going into the history book is a COMMIE. I could never respect the man that designed the weapons to fight against the beliefs and blood that my country is. Ruger just used everyone else's designs that the patent ran out on. M77 is a Mauser, Revolvers a mostly Colt, Mini 14 is the military M14. No 1 is another knock off. ETC. Just a cheap copy cat. Remington , Tikka, all the others, ETC..ETC.. on and on we go. Here are the facts. no opinions here. any doubters need to check these statements on Google and form there opinions. Both manufactures in question have experienced the typical mass manufacturing issues with their product. Some outshoot customs and some shoot like a shotgun. Some have warranty and some last forever. [/QUOTE]
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