BP ain\'t all muzzle loading Went to the range this morning to get a 300 yd zero. Forgot which Sat of the month it was. Got there the upper/long range was full of trucks, etc. I don't know whatcha call it but you use original buffalo rifles of about 40, 45 and 50 cal. Bullets are soft lead at over 400 grains @ about 1100 FPS. Most wear shoulder pads. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif They shoot at steel chickens, pigs, turkeys and sheep at 100, 200, 300, 400 & 500 meters. Cross sticks support the "barrel" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif and most shooters shoot prone, except for the chickens @ 100 meters (they seemed pretty safe by the way) which are shot offhand. Tang sights or some kind of a tube thing is used for sights. Each shooter has 5 shots (after sighters) for 5 of the angry steel beasts. They shoot a shot. breath down the barrel with a rigged up plastic hose gizmo. I asked what that was for and the guy said to keep the powder residue soft. He said he had no idea if it worked or not but he always did it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Just like us with some of our habits. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif A patch is then run down the bore, some jabbering takes place with the spotter and the next shot is fired. Last year I stumbled onto the same shoot and watched an old fella (this sport seems to attract old fella. I'm old but a more than just a few of these fellas needed new knees, hips and help getting up from the shooting position) knock over 10 for 10 rams at 500 meters. The rams were clean for the first go around so the hit placement was unmistakable. I volunteered to set targets just to get to go out and measure his group size from looking a each of the 5 rams. Amazing! The group size was no more than 5". Put you bipod on the barrel and try that /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif The old fart did nearly the same thing to day. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Knocked 'em all down but wind and mirage were a bit testy. The difference between them and us is they get sighters and we have to make that first shot count. Otherwise I guess we'd be long range shooters vs long range hunters. Oh, and at times they are compensating for 50 or so inches of windage at 500 /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif I don't know how much they were compensating today but with 195 WCs @ 3000+ I adjusted a 1/2 minute @ 500 and was w/in an inch of POA. Just tho't it was interesting.