bolt wont close???

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  1. emmagator

    emmagator Well-Known Member

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    Ok i reloaded some once fired norma 270wsm brass. About half of the rounds would not allow the the bolt to close. Some would close, but they were real sticky. And some loaded with no problem. Any thoughts? thanks
     
  2. Flare

    Flare Well-Known Member

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    Either your bullets are seated to long and are making contact with the rifling or the brass is too long. Also could be that they did not fully resize. Those are the only ideas I have. I tried to just bump the shoulder on some 7mag rounds and they did the same thing. Had to full legth resize them.

    Corey
     

  3. BountyHunter

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    Odds are you are not bumping the shoulder back far enough.

    If you have a comparator where you can measure the shoulder you can easily tell the difference between the cases that will chamber and the ones that will not.

    Take one case that will not chamber, lube it and turn your die down just a very little. Resize and try again to chamber. Keep doing that with that one case until it chambers.

    BH
     
  4. emmagator

    emmagator Well-Known Member

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    well looks like a better pick up a full length sizing die. all i have is a neck sizer. What die do you guys recommend?
     
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  5. fatrack

    fatrack Well-Known Member

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    Was this brass fired in the same gun your trying to chamber the brass in? Generally speaking once fired brass must be full length sized in order to be used in a different rifle. I get many firings out of neck sized brass by doing nothing more than trimming a little when the brass gets too long.

    Lee collet dies are some of the most affordable and have the least amount of runout (accuracy!) of any dies. You can have them custom made also if you send them some once fired brass (from your gun of course).
     
  6. emmagator

    emmagator Well-Known Member

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    This brass is fired in the same rifle. Im just not understanding why once fired brass would need to be full length resized.
     
  7. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

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    In my experience if you push WSM's at all you'll be full length sizing every time, which I do any way, don't even own a neck sizing die for anything.
     
  8. Team Roper

    Team Roper Well-Known Member

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    Been there done that; got the t shirt. If I don't bump the shoulders back .003 they wont chamber. On allof my WSM's and WSSM's I have learned to check each round after resizing to make sure they chamber smoothly. Just one of the quirks to a great round.
     
  9. skiingbear

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    Check Wilson Chamber Check Gage. Very simple.
     
  10. kraky

    kraky Well-Known Member

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    FWIW I don't own a wsm but have worked with a few. What I've found is with that if I don't set the shoulder back about .003" when running reloads that match factory velocity there is alot of tension on bolt lift after firing the reload. Enough that I think it would hinder follow up shots.
    I'll use the lee collet die on once fired brass for testing....but only fl sizing for hunting. I've been told the culprit is the larger shoulder area of wsm brass. May not be a problem for all chambers but it was very noticeable in the couple guns I worked with.
    The wsm's are kind of a cool casing to look at but also kind of a pain to reload....at least that's what I've found.
     
  11. CLP308

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    I've loaded for .325 WSM & had to buy a small base die to size once fired brass. It wouldn't chamber the regular full length sized brass. This was for a BLR which is a little finicky. I prefer Redding dies. They will also build dies specific for your rifle.
    Good luck
     
  12. Reloader222

    Reloader222 Well-Known Member

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    The load may be in the upper half and that causes the brass to strech more. I would recommend that you get a good full length resizing die and bump the shoulders a little back. Also get a comperator to measure the shoulders.
     
  13. Trickymissfit

    Trickymissfit Well-Known Member

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    there's the problem. You cannot neck size brass and expect to shoot it forever. Best to start out with a good full length die, and then move into a neck die. Myself, for a hunting rifle I'd do nothing but full length size it.
    gary
     
  14. emmagator

    emmagator Well-Known Member

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    Well i purchased a FL sizing die and a Wilson case length gauge. Set up die per included instructions, resized some brass, measured with gauge trimmed, as necessary and they seem to be cycling through rifle fine now. However it seems i used a little to much lube on my brass because some of my shoulders are rippled. Thanks for all your help.