Blue Printing Explained

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing' started by statjunk, Mar 19, 2010.

  1. statjunk

    statjunk Well-Known Member

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    Hello guys,

    I'm hoping you guys can tell me what's missing. Hart Barrel company does the following when they install a barrel:

    Installing barrel on your action
    Includes price of barrel, squaring action and lapping lugs.

    What is the difference between the above and a full blue printing job?

    What is the realized difference on the range? Yes I know every rifle is different but generally speaking what will one generally gain.

    Thanks

    Tom
     

  2. NesikaChad

    NesikaChad Well-Known Member

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    I'll take a stab at this: Since the Remmy 700 is pretty much the small block chevy of the bolt action gun world the bulk of what I'm describing applies to it. It can apply to other actions as well.

    Many smiths offer the "meat and potatoes" of tuning up an action. The baseline of this operation is the tune up the face of the receiver ring, make a clean up pass on the internal receiver ring threads, skim cut the locking lug surfaces of the receiver, and take a pass off the lug surfaces of the bolt.

    From there it gets more involved, a guy may want the bolt face cleaned up and/or a bushing installed to better captivate the rim of the case. He may want a different extractor installed. The scope mount holes can be opened up to a larger thread pitch for better strength/retention of the optics. Helical fluting of a bolt is an option I provide, a new fire control system with a fitted shroud that alters the action from a partial cock on open/close to a full cock on open only. This is nice to have when shooting from a bench and it improves the overall "warm and fuzzy" feel a guy gets when running his gun.

    Pinning the recoil lug to the receiver so that it indexes in the same place each time is another option I offer. I DESPISE those tools that use the front guard screw to register the lug.

    TIG welding the handle to the bolt body is another feature I include with this as well as adding an external bolt release.

    Thats what I can offer. NOT trying to be salesman here but if you visit my site I have a page called "process" that illustrates some of this a little more.

    For anyone reading this, please pay attention to this part. IF you like it and want all this done understand that none of it is cheap and dollar for dollar you will be much further along if you sell that Remmy action/rifle and use it and the money you were going to pay a higher end smith to just buy a custom receiver because your going to be right in the price range anyway. Figure a Remmy action these days runs about $450 in today's market. I charge $800 for parts/labor. You can buy (as an example) a fully decked out Defiance Machine action for the same price and have ten times the gun when your done.

    I offer this blueprinting service because I can do it, but truth be told I'd rather see you have better parts to start with than pay out the nose to turn a pigs ear into a silk purse.

    Hope that answered your question and puts things in perspective.

    All the best,

    Chad.
     

  3. phorwath

    phorwath Well-Known Member

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    Nice sense of humor there. My first smile of the morning. :)
     
  4. statjunk

    statjunk Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the info. Can anyone supply the same thing Chad did but as it relates to a Winchester action?

    Thanks

    Tom
     
  5. Chas1

    Chas1 Well-Known Member

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    Nesikachad, what is meant by "a new fire control system with a fitted shroud that alters the action from a partial cock on open/close to a full cock on open only? I'm trying to get a picture in my mind on what you mean by a shroud.
     
  6. Chas1

    Chas1 Well-Known Member

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    phorwath, first smile of the morning...I wish my mornings started at 3pm.:D
     
  7. Gene

    Gene Well-Known Member

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    Nesika Chad - I understand that not all custom actions are produced with all of those refinements. Can you tell us which you recommend?

    PS Loive my Nesika J action in Edge stock with 30BR Bartlien
     
  8. Boss Hoss

    Boss Hoss Well-Known Member

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    Send me your email and I will email you a detailed article that explains what is done and why--it is very technical but then you will know.
     
  9. phorwath

    phorwath Well-Known Member

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    I get a late start some weekend mornings. Even some weekday mornings. :)