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Black crap on Berger Bullets
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<blockquote data-quote="Bullet bumper" data-source="post: 660871" data-attributes="member: 17844"><p>Maybe you should not have cleaned them up . You should have sent them back. They are crap looking bullets . Were the seals on the box's intact ? </p><p>It appears to me that the cores were wet with something or some kind of contamination is inside or outside the bullet , old swage lube possibly but I have never seen it turn black like that . Possibly black mold growing on old swage lube . However they may still shoot ok as long as no imbalance is present but when you see that kind of presentation it does not give you much confidence . </p><p>Two box's will not break the bank but if that was a batch of 1000 I would be sending them back . It is a rare occurance and the vast majority of Berger stuff is good but every production line has it's failures at times. </p><p>However I think that is old stock as they seem dull but the label on the box is quoting a G7 BC so that label is not that old ? </p><p>I make my own bullets and I do a final wash with dilute sulfamic acid in warm water . It removes everything and leaves the bullets super shinny and clean and once they are properly dried , then ready for moly coating. </p><p>bsl135 ( " Bryan " might be Bryan Litz of Berger anyway so he should know ) may well be right it could be contamination in the final washing process . I can't see a bulk manufacturer using an expensive agent like Sulfamic Acid . I bet they are just using soapy water and not changing it often enough .</p><p>We get this kind of thing in Australia , they send out the second quality stuff to us. That is why I make my own now. New Mexico might be getting the same treatment as downunder. Many years ago I got six box's of Berger 55 grain 224 bullets sent out and 20% had split jackets at the ogive . Some never made it to the target . Might have been just bad luck but that was the catalyst to start making my own . I may not be able to match some of the accuracy of the specialised VLD stuff but If I do make a faulty bullet I can see that and not use it . It is not so bad when you can just take it back to your local gunshop but when you bring it in from overseas it is very dissapointing .</p><p>You still have to buy jackets and some batch's are not as good as others but I redraw any crook batch of jackets to true them up more .</p><p>This is what some of my 6mm bullets look like just incase you think I am all BS .</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bullet bumper, post: 660871, member: 17844"] Maybe you should not have cleaned them up . You should have sent them back. They are crap looking bullets . Were the seals on the box's intact ? It appears to me that the cores were wet with something or some kind of contamination is inside or outside the bullet , old swage lube possibly but I have never seen it turn black like that . Possibly black mold growing on old swage lube . However they may still shoot ok as long as no imbalance is present but when you see that kind of presentation it does not give you much confidence . Two box's will not break the bank but if that was a batch of 1000 I would be sending them back . It is a rare occurance and the vast majority of Berger stuff is good but every production line has it's failures at times. However I think that is old stock as they seem dull but the label on the box is quoting a G7 BC so that label is not that old ? I make my own bullets and I do a final wash with dilute sulfamic acid in warm water . It removes everything and leaves the bullets super shinny and clean and once they are properly dried , then ready for moly coating. bsl135 ( " Bryan " might be Bryan Litz of Berger anyway so he should know ) may well be right it could be contamination in the final washing process . I can't see a bulk manufacturer using an expensive agent like Sulfamic Acid . I bet they are just using soapy water and not changing it often enough . We get this kind of thing in Australia , they send out the second quality stuff to us. That is why I make my own now. New Mexico might be getting the same treatment as downunder. Many years ago I got six box's of Berger 55 grain 224 bullets sent out and 20% had split jackets at the ogive . Some never made it to the target . Might have been just bad luck but that was the catalyst to start making my own . I may not be able to match some of the accuracy of the specialised VLD stuff but If I do make a faulty bullet I can see that and not use it . It is not so bad when you can just take it back to your local gunshop but when you bring it in from overseas it is very dissapointing . You still have to buy jackets and some batch's are not as good as others but I redraw any crook batch of jackets to true them up more . This is what some of my 6mm bullets look like just incase you think I am all BS . [/QUOTE]
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