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<blockquote data-quote="RoughNeck182" data-source="post: 327814" data-attributes="member: 18191"><p>Have you ever heard about the Taylor Index? </p><p>See:</p><p><a href="http://www.loadammo.com/Topics/July02.htm" target="_blank">Topic of the Month</a></p><p> </p><p>I don't have the personal experience with game to back up Taylor's theory, but I certainly agree in theory that the bullets total kinetic energy at the time of impact isn't the end all and be all. It can't be. Besides the obvious example that a bullet could pass all the way through a target with lots of speed left (ie. much of the energy was not imparted on to the animal) - in which case the delivered energy is much lower than the kinetic energy of the bullet at the moment of impact. There is also differences in effect of the same amounts of energy applied differently (different time scale or different sized area of impact). I mean, isn't that why autoloader rifles seem to kick less? It's the same amount of free-recoil energy from the cartridge but applied to the shooter over a longer period of time so the instantaneous acceleration of the gun and shooter are not as high and it seems less 'shocking' - at least in my experience. Imagine shooting the gun with an extremely pointy tip where your butt plate is. Your body would not be pushed back from the kick as much as it would be pierced because it didn't provide a 'solid' surface for the kinetic energy to be transfered to the body. I think this is where the taylor index comes in. If you get hit with a big caliber bullet, all else being equal, I think it will impart the energy with more shock because it takes more 'work' to pierce through the target surface - more push less pierce seems to equal more shock because it accelerates the targets whole mass more quickly. And then there is the hydrostatic shock created, which again, I think is higher when there is more bullet diameter to 'push' target material instead of 'pierce'. Just my opinion, would love to hear what you guys with more experience think of all this!</p><p> </p><p>John</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RoughNeck182, post: 327814, member: 18191"] Have you ever heard about the Taylor Index? See: [url=http://www.loadammo.com/Topics/July02.htm]Topic of the Month[/url] I don't have the personal experience with game to back up Taylor's theory, but I certainly agree in theory that the bullets total kinetic energy at the time of impact isn't the end all and be all. It can't be. Besides the obvious example that a bullet could pass all the way through a target with lots of speed left (ie. much of the energy was not imparted on to the animal) - in which case the delivered energy is much lower than the kinetic energy of the bullet at the moment of impact. There is also differences in effect of the same amounts of energy applied differently (different time scale or different sized area of impact). I mean, isn't that why autoloader rifles seem to kick less? It's the same amount of free-recoil energy from the cartridge but applied to the shooter over a longer period of time so the instantaneous acceleration of the gun and shooter are not as high and it seems less 'shocking' - at least in my experience. Imagine shooting the gun with an extremely pointy tip where your butt plate is. Your body would not be pushed back from the kick as much as it would be pierced because it didn't provide a 'solid' surface for the kinetic energy to be transfered to the body. I think this is where the taylor index comes in. If you get hit with a big caliber bullet, all else being equal, I think it will impart the energy with more shock because it takes more 'work' to pierce through the target surface - more push less pierce seems to equal more shock because it accelerates the targets whole mass more quickly. And then there is the hydrostatic shock created, which again, I think is higher when there is more bullet diameter to 'push' target material instead of 'pierce'. Just my opinion, would love to hear what you guys with more experience think of all this! John [/QUOTE]
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