Black bear round

Discussion in 'Bear Hunting' started by rdsii64, Jan 5, 2009.

  1. rdsii64

    rdsii64 Well-Known Member

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    I would like to believe that when hunting any kind of bear, you would use the biggest caliber that you can shoot accurately. . I would prefer to use a .300 winmag or at a minimum .30-06. Considering that black bear are not that large when compared to other bears, coupled with the fact that I currently only have one rifle, can you reasonably expect a one shot clean kill on black bear with a .308?
     

  2. screech

    screech Well-Known Member

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    If we are talking the normal hunting shot of up to 500 then yes a 308 with the right bullet in the right place will work just fine. Not that I would suggest it but I have seen black bears killed with a 22-250 in a tree and I use a 243 on bears with good luck. It dosent take much to kill a black bear. well at least the ones in Idaho. The biggest one I have ever shot was in the 250lb range so If you get where they are bigger it may be a different story.

    Also most of the bears I hunt are on a bait but I have shot a few in the big open hillsides in the spring.
     

  3. Akbushape

    Akbushape Active Member

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    Yes rdsii64, the 308 will work fine on black bear. It is big enough to bust down the shoulder on a black bear and still make it to the boiler room. Use a good bullet, not a hollow point. Place your shot good and it'll do it's part. I have killed several with a 300 savage and some with the 30-30.
    If you hit them behind the shoulder and through the heart they can still run farther than one might think, but if you bust the shoulder and get into the
    heart/lung cavity he won't get far.
     
  4. angus-5024

    angus-5024 Well-Known Member

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    rdsii64,
    .308 is fine with good shot placment. I preffer a little overkill because I don't really like tracking. my dad shot a monster 420lbs bruin with a .284 breaking the shoulder and taking both lungs @80yrd and the thing still went over 300yrd into thick, thick bush. we tracked it and he made and identical shot, droping it in its tracks. it was a very good shot, not heart but very good nontheless, and we had to track it. I on the other hand have shot 6 black bears in 4 years and they all droped in there tracks except one. The 5 that I killed on the spot i shot with a .340wby. the one that ran I shot with an 30-06.
    the '06 hit the heart but had poor expansion and penetration, because I used a cheap bullet. lesson learned.
    So my advice is this, use a bigger gun if you can, but if you cant make sure you use a good quality bullet.
    my 2 bits.
    jordan
     
  5. Varmint Hunter

    Varmint Hunter Well-Known Member

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    Last year my buddy shot a 356 lb black bear. He used a 30-06 with the 180gr CoreLockt bullet. Broadside hit with a complete pass through. The bear left a blood trail that Ray Charles could have followed. Bear was DOA about 50 yards away.

    Black bear are just not that hard to kill. Your .308 is plenty of gun for them.
     
  6. EastHunter

    EastHunter Well-Known Member

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    For hunting over bait or max 200yrd shoot the 444mar is the thing!
    Noting bring big bruin to ground like it.
     
  7. Derek M.

    Derek M. Well-Known Member

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    ABSOLUTELY!!

    The 308 is MORE than adequate for black bear, even out to 300 yards. Stuff a 168 TTSX in there over Re15, IMR4064, or Varget and go kill one.

    A buddy of mine took his girlfriend on her first ever hunt in NB this past spring and she killed a 300+ pounder with his 243 and a 95 btip at about 10 yards.

    Relax, go take your 308 hunting and watch it ruin a bear's day.
     
  8. dogdinger

    dogdinger Writers Guild

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    the statute of limitations is up on this one so i can talk about it......last bear i killed was with a 7.62X39 (ruger mini 30).....it was a young male about a 250lb that was raising hell around my place and tearing up everything that even remotely smelled of food. Made the shot with him standing in the bed of my truck....one shot through the lungs (and out through the fender)...50yds, dead bear....the 308 will be plenty of gun....AJ
     
  9. remingtonman_25_06

    remingtonman_25_06 Well-Known Member

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    The average black bear is not very hard to kill. The average whitetail caliber is all you need for your average black bear. Notice I"m saying "average."

    I've killed 4 black bears. Of the 4, 1 was a big one at #10 for youth in Oregon, 18 15/16". I didn't get a live hanging weight as we skinned and quartered him in the canyon, but he was all of 400 lbs. I took this bear at about 200-250 yards with my 300 RUM, 1 shot and he slid on his nose. Glad I had that cartridge at that time for that big of bear.

    My other 3 bears I have killed with a "lowly" 25-06 at 375, 440, and 450 yards. 2 of the bears took 2 shots to kill, the other took a single shot. I was using 115g NBT's on the 440 and 450 yard bears, and the 117g sierra gameking on the 375 yarder.

    I believe in using enough gun to a certain extent. If you cant shoot a big rifle well enough to hit where you should be, then you should not be using it, as a smaller caliber with better shot placement will be more efficient.
     
  10. SamTucker

    SamTucker New Member

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    What do you think of a 14" barrel (pistol) chambered in 7mm 08?

    I want to hunt with this little gem, and I want to hunt black bear. They don't get too big aroud here, and I don't mind tracking a bit. It's a great size for the hills and is scoped for a good shot. I don't plan on shooting far. I'm generayy a bow hunter and feel comfortable getting closer than some might, for a good shot.
     
  11. angus-5024

    angus-5024 Well-Known Member

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    that sounds like a sweet hunt. Im up in B.C so handguns are out of the question. sucks to be me, but i look forward to hearing about your hunt!
     
  12. RemingtonMagnum

    RemingtonMagnum Well-Known Member

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    Oh ya thats plenty gun for black bear. I've dropped them with .243 Win.
     
  13. knifemaker

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    I'm saving up to get myself a 308 to blast them bears.
     
  14. eric2381

    eric2381 Well-Known Member

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    Of the bears I've shot, they've been with either my 45-70 or my 7mm RM. Both have plenty of power to take a bruin out, as does your 308. Just remember that a bears vitals sit a bit lower in the body than a deer. Aim mid body, and it won't be going far. Are you planning on hunting over bait, or spot and stalk?