Biggest bullet in 22-250, 1:14 twist

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  1. montana_native

    montana_native Well-Known Member

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    Can I shoot a 60 grain V-max or Ballistic tip out of this thing? Most of the info states the 60 gr V-max requires 1:12 and the 60 gr Nosler requires 1:10 which seems pretty general.

    24" barrel.

    Thanks.
     
  2. britz

    britz Well-Known Member

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    I'm 90% sure that you would need a 12 twist to handle a 60 gr vmax. I'm 100% sure that a 14 twist will not stablize the 60 grain boat tail. When I have a question about the twist of a bullet I usually start by looking at Berger's website and compareing similar bullets to them since Berger lists the required twist for all their bullets.

    Remember that the LONGER the bullet is overall, the slower the twist it will require. A Vmax is a spitzer and a Balistic tip is a boat tail = longer.

    Simple rule of thumb is a 50/52 gr boat tail and a 55 gr spitzer is the most BC you can usually get out of a 14" twist and up that by 5 grains or so when you go to a savage and 12" twist.
     

  3. Fiftydriver

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    I have shot that bullet in several factory 22-250s with mixed results. One Rem 700 simply shot patterns.

    Most of them would get groups in the 1 to 1.5 moa range at 100 yards.

    I have only seen one rifle that shot them well, under 3/4 moa at 100 yards. That said, those same rifles had problems with some of the tipped 55 gr Boat tail bullets as well.

    For factory barrels, I generally always use the 50 gr tipped boattail bullets or a HP in 52 or 55 grain. That said, a 60 gr HP will generally stabilize fully in the factory barrel with the larger 22 cal rifles.
     
  4. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

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    I shoot a remington 788 in 22-250 with a 1:14 twist and it does super with a 55 grain remington soft point. Anything heavier and it starts falling apart.
    The 50 grain v-max shot well but going over 55 grain bullets have not worked well in my rifle.
     
  5. johnnyk

    johnnyk Well-Known Member

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    The two 1-14" Remingtons that I had, a BDL Varmint Special and a VS (Varmint Synthetic), I never got the gilt edge accuracy from the 55gn bullets. Groups hovered right around an inch, maybe a little better, but they absolutely shined with the 52gn SMK and 40gn NBT's. JohnnyK.
     
  6. hvy barrel

    hvy barrel Well-Known Member

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    Some 22-250's will shoot some 55gr bullets. I have one that will shoot the 55gr Nosler Ballistic Tip very well. It will put 5 shots in a little over 3/8 of an inch.
    I have tried both the 55gr Hornady Vmax & Sierra Blitzking out of this rifle & they did not shoot as well as the Nosler.
    I have not tried a 60gr bullet yet, but I suspect that it will not shoot very good due to the 14" twist.
    A 10" or 12" twist would be much better for this weight projectile.
     
  7. dirtball

    dirtball Well-Known Member

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    Had a Rem 40XB in 22-250 27.5" barrel 14 twist for years before I rebarreled it to 6.5x284. It NEVER would shoot anything heavier than 55gr.
    Dave
     
  8. montana_native

    montana_native Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for the info. To me, it seems weird that a gun manufacturer would limit bullet selection that much by using such a slow twist rate.

    Guess it's 55 grains or less.

    Thanks again.
     
  9. Broz

    Broz Well-Known Member

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    I am in the process of setting up a new to me 22-250 as well. It's a Wby Super Varmint Master 26" Kreiger (factory) with a 1 in 14 twist. I have always had good luck with 50 gr V-max's for Prairie dogs but hope to stretch this rifle out a bit, conditions permitting. Is there a better bullet choice for 5 to 600 yards? Am I asking too much from this lil bullet?

    Thanks Jeff
     
  10. Mikecr

    Mikecr Well-Known Member

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    14tw seems like a weird choice to me as well.
    I always considered 12tw as the standard. Any bullets shooting well in 14 would also in 12, and there are so many bullets useful in 12.
    Far less in 14....

    I have a Cooper in 14tw, that I assumed would be 12(well, that was stupid).
    Anyway, it's next barrel will be 12.
     
  11. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

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    The Savage model 12 varminter has a choice of 1:12 or 1:9 on the web site.
     
  12. JD338

    JD338 Well-Known Member

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    I have a M70 VLS 22-250 with a 1:14 twist. The 50 gr BT shoots great-
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    It took some time but I found a load with the 55 gr BT-
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    I even found a load with the original 60 gr PT-
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    I bought more 60 gr PT's and Nosler had changed to ogive ever so slightly and the rifle shot patterns.
    I tried the 60 gr BT and the group looked like a shotgun pattern.
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    I will never understand why Remington still only offers the 22-250 with a 1:14 twist.

    JD338
     
  13. chadlyg

    chadlyg New Member

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    i have a 220 swift all most the same gun same twist i shoot a 53 gr barrnes x out of my gun like how they hold up last year my wife shoot her first desert mulle at about 150yrds shoulder hit gun)went right threw every one was giving me a bad time and said that it was to small worked just fine .on paper it was under a inch at 100 yrds