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<blockquote data-quote="Trickymissfit" data-source="post: 1014109" data-attributes="member: 25383"><p>About fifteen years ago I went thru the same con game with three other individuals and a fourth bystander. Two guys used Dillons and swore about their dead strait rounds. Another pair used RCBS presses. The bystander also used the RCBS and a Dillon as well. The man I worked for used one of the Rockchuckers. I made a fixture to check the loaded rounds and empty cases on a lab grade surface plate, and a Shadowgraph as well. Now matter what dies used the RCBS had about half the runout doing .223 cases. I later did the same test, and my cases and loaded ammo came in at roughly one third of the runout as the two RCBS presses. It was decided that my dies were better (off the shelf Forster), so I did two sets of cases with RCBS and Redding dies (not the fancy ones). Were not quite as good, but still plenty good enough. The RCBS presses did ammo roughly 50% better than the Dillon presses (all three). In other words shot gun ammo!</p><p> </p><p>The Boss was extremely interested, and I later rebuilt his press. Made the standard press seem like a toy when we got done, but you could have bought four rockchuckers to get there. The bystander used the top of the line Redding and a Dillon (was a dealer for both). They were no better than the others tested. One guy sent his Dillon back for repair, and there was zero improvement. I made a couple mods to it, and took .0025" out of the runout (I may copyright these mods). Plenty good enough for machine guns and 100 yard stuff I guess. The rebuilt rockchucker did do ammo slightly under .0025" (checked in the Shadowgraph). I later did a Pacific Green something or another, and another RCBS. Results were similar.</p><p> </p><p>Now back to machine guns (AR's). My main squeeze won an Olympic heavy barreled gun in a VFW raffle. The chamber was .223. I took it out and shot it with ammo I use in my 700 Remington VS. No tweaks or adjustments (rounds were designed for a 20" barrel N.M. chamber). First five shot group was about .65". By the end of the day I was shooting .60" groups effortlessly. The load was simply a 55grain Vmax over 27.5 grains of BLC2. The bullet was set up to be .002" off the lands in the Remington, and who knows what in the AR. It was a hard battle to get .40" groups in the Remington. The rounds were just thrown together in a Forster press with Forster dies. I use them to plug coyotes at 350 yards or less. I can tell you upfront the loaded rounds show about .0015" or less in the Shadowgraph. Plus the cases were well used and beat up Remingtons. Primers were Federal. Just nothing I'd call special. The chamber reamer was borrowed from Ferris Pindell. </p><p> </p><p>there's little question in my mind that strait ammo makes life far easier down the road.</p><p>gary</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trickymissfit, post: 1014109, member: 25383"] About fifteen years ago I went thru the same con game with three other individuals and a fourth bystander. Two guys used Dillons and swore about their dead strait rounds. Another pair used RCBS presses. The bystander also used the RCBS and a Dillon as well. The man I worked for used one of the Rockchuckers. I made a fixture to check the loaded rounds and empty cases on a lab grade surface plate, and a Shadowgraph as well. Now matter what dies used the RCBS had about half the runout doing .223 cases. I later did the same test, and my cases and loaded ammo came in at roughly one third of the runout as the two RCBS presses. It was decided that my dies were better (off the shelf Forster), so I did two sets of cases with RCBS and Redding dies (not the fancy ones). Were not quite as good, but still plenty good enough. The RCBS presses did ammo roughly 50% better than the Dillon presses (all three). In other words shot gun ammo! The Boss was extremely interested, and I later rebuilt his press. Made the standard press seem like a toy when we got done, but you could have bought four rockchuckers to get there. The bystander used the top of the line Redding and a Dillon (was a dealer for both). They were no better than the others tested. One guy sent his Dillon back for repair, and there was zero improvement. I made a couple mods to it, and took .0025" out of the runout (I may copyright these mods). Plenty good enough for machine guns and 100 yard stuff I guess. The rebuilt rockchucker did do ammo slightly under .0025" (checked in the Shadowgraph). I later did a Pacific Green something or another, and another RCBS. Results were similar. Now back to machine guns (AR's). My main squeeze won an Olympic heavy barreled gun in a VFW raffle. The chamber was .223. I took it out and shot it with ammo I use in my 700 Remington VS. No tweaks or adjustments (rounds were designed for a 20" barrel N.M. chamber). First five shot group was about .65". By the end of the day I was shooting .60" groups effortlessly. The load was simply a 55grain Vmax over 27.5 grains of BLC2. The bullet was set up to be .002" off the lands in the Remington, and who knows what in the AR. It was a hard battle to get .40" groups in the Remington. The rounds were just thrown together in a Forster press with Forster dies. I use them to plug coyotes at 350 yards or less. I can tell you upfront the loaded rounds show about .0015" or less in the Shadowgraph. Plus the cases were well used and beat up Remingtons. Primers were Federal. Just nothing I'd call special. The chamber reamer was borrowed from Ferris Pindell. there's little question in my mind that strait ammo makes life far easier down the road. gary [/QUOTE]
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