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Best die for bumping shoulder
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<blockquote data-quote="bigedp51" data-source="post: 1447880" data-attributes="member: 28965"><p>When reading postings in reloading forums the people in a forum have to differentiate between shooters with custom rifles and those who have off the shelf factory rifles, and this forum is not Benchrest Central.</p><p></p><p>So I will stand by all my statements because I do not own any custom rifles with tight neck chambers. And my standard Forster full length dies produce less neck runout than bushing dies.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So Mikecr you have custom rifles with tight neck chambers and you decided to critique my postings using off the shelf factory rifles. How many people here have custom made rifles and how many have factory rifles.</p><p></p><p>You stated above bushing dies are designed for under .005 sizing, so how many factory rifle chambers have .0025 clearance on each side of the case neck?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And how many people using bushing dies use the dies expander or a expander die after sizing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You just said bushing dies are designed for less than .005 sizing, and if more than that the bushing die will induce neck runout. And this is because the bushing floats and can move side to side and even tilt.</p><p>Therefore a bushing die does "NOT" have the same support as a non-bushing full length die.</p><p></p><p>And any reloader with a factory rifle is better off not using bushing dies if the neck expands over .005 when fired. And the links I provided back up what I have stated here.</p><p></p><p>And I have a Forster bushing bump neck sizing die and it induces more neck runout than the standard non-bushing Forster full length dies. This is because neck sizing dies do not support the case body and it has a floating bushing that does not support the case neck.</p><p></p><p>Bottom line, if you remove the expander from any type full length die and size the case it will be as concentric as it ever will be. And if you add a floating bushing this means the sized neck can float and move where it wants to go.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bigedp51, post: 1447880, member: 28965"] When reading postings in reloading forums the people in a forum have to differentiate between shooters with custom rifles and those who have off the shelf factory rifles, and this forum is not Benchrest Central. So I will stand by all my statements because I do not own any custom rifles with tight neck chambers. And my standard Forster full length dies produce less neck runout than bushing dies. So Mikecr you have custom rifles with tight neck chambers and you decided to critique my postings using off the shelf factory rifles. How many people here have custom made rifles and how many have factory rifles. You stated above bushing dies are designed for under .005 sizing, so how many factory rifle chambers have .0025 clearance on each side of the case neck? And how many people using bushing dies use the dies expander or a expander die after sizing. You just said bushing dies are designed for less than .005 sizing, and if more than that the bushing die will induce neck runout. And this is because the bushing floats and can move side to side and even tilt. Therefore a bushing die does "NOT" have the same support as a non-bushing full length die. And any reloader with a factory rifle is better off not using bushing dies if the neck expands over .005 when fired. And the links I provided back up what I have stated here. And I have a Forster bushing bump neck sizing die and it induces more neck runout than the standard non-bushing Forster full length dies. This is because neck sizing dies do not support the case body and it has a floating bushing that does not support the case neck. Bottom line, if you remove the expander from any type full length die and size the case it will be as concentric as it ever will be. And if you add a floating bushing this means the sized neck can float and move where it wants to go. [/QUOTE]
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