Berger vs Phone book (read rednek boolit test)

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by Limbic, Jul 19, 2009.

  1. Limbic

    Limbic Well-Known Member

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    7mm Remmy Mag with 180gr Berger and MV of 2800 gun)

    It plowed throught 5 2/3 semi moist phone books at 100yrds.

    80.7gr of retained weight. Mostly jacket.

    Pretty much what I was hoping to find.

    Funny it stopped pretty much on the alcoholic page. Since I'm pretty much an addict I guess this was not surprising. Shooting addict that is.:D







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  2. trebark

    trebark Well-Known Member

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    Cool test. Thanks for sharing. Looks like the bullet performed just the way Berger says they will.

    I understand your addiction completely. The only way to reduce the frequency and intensity of the withdrawal pains is to shoot more!

    I would advise you to repeat this test at longer range to determine bullet performance at various velocities.
     

  3. eddybo

    eddybo Well-Known Member

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    That is cool. How many total inches of penetration did you get? What did the hole through the other 5 phone books look like?
     
  4. Limbic

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    [​IMG]The bullet went throught 5 2/3 phone books. Semi moist books at that. I guess that is about three inches per book so roughly 14-15 inches.


    Here is a pic of the back of the 5th phone book. I'm sure you recognize the guy Bo. I didn't mean to shoot him in the head :D
     
  5. Nomosendero

    Nomosendero Well-Known Member

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    An Attorney ar least
     
  6. Chuck Boyer

    Chuck Boyer Active Member

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    Hey Limbic, I have some 180 Bergers that I tried in my STW. Can't get them to shoot. You want to buy them or trade. I am in Flora MS. Anyone done the phone book test with a 210 30 cal Berger? I do some deer depredation shooting and man do they do a number on a doe deer in a 300 Winnie.
     
  7. learning

    learning Well-Known Member

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    You missed! I thought you shot attorneys between the eyes.
     
  8. eddybo

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    Missed.....looks like a complete lobatamy to me:)

    16 inches in wet phone book translates into ????? in actual muscle and flesh? I have shot completely through a whitetail basicly from corner to corner using a berger bullet. I would say quite a bit more than 16 inches of penetration in flesh and bone and that was with a 168. Made a complete mess of everything but surprisingly little meat damage. I would guess that the 180s would penetrate better. I am trying to decide on my backup rifle for an elk hunt this year and cannot decide between a 7mm/338Lapua and 30/338Lapua improved but am leaning toward the 7mm since seeing this. Thanks for sharing.

     
  9. DoubleGobble00

    DoubleGobble00 Well-Known Member

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    Awesome test.. Thanks for posting it. I have been wanting to do that myself.

    DoubleG
     
  10. Limbic

    Limbic Well-Known Member

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    I'm working on a load for 180's. If I can get them to shoot I'll buy yours for sure. I'd like to try them on a depreditation shoot. Hint hint.
     
  11. Chuck Boyer

    Chuck Boyer Active Member

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    We'll work something out. Needs to be prettty quick. The beans are getting tall and you won't be able to see the deer.
     
  12. Tumbleweed

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    I have not done a phone book test with the 210's, however I have shot into a 15 gallon plastic barrel completely full of water. I placed the barrel at 975 meters, or 1,066 yards and shot a nice 3 shot group clean through it before the water drained out! I was a bit suprised, as I was expecting to be retreiving bullet remnants from inside the barrel. A 14" solid column of water? I got a new barrel, layed it down and shot into the end of it so I was able to retreive my bullet that time. It is out of a 300 Wby running at 2,960fps. Impact velocity at that distance is about 1610fps at sea level, hope this helps.
     
  13. Limbic

    Limbic Well-Known Member

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    Chuck I got some pretty good groups with Retumbo. MV of about 2920. How many pills do you have? Where do you usually shoot? Shoot me a pm.
     
  14. X3MHunter

    X3MHunter Well-Known Member

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    I tried that with my 6.5-284 with 140 Berger VLD at 300 yards and it went through 2 phone books, did not recover the bullet. Pretty good performance at 300 yds. though.

    -X3M