Well I shot some 95 grain VLD's with IMR 4831from 47-49 grains today. Expecting great results...instead- Shot off sandbags, just kissing the lands. The 48 grain group was shot by a benchrest shooter, so it must not be all me. I loaded up 22 shells with 49 grains IMR 4831, 6 .005 off the lands, 8 just on the lands, and 8 .005 in the lands. Hopefully something good happens.