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<blockquote data-quote="bigngreen" data-source="post: 1357202" data-attributes="member: 13632"><p>There is a breaking point with penetration on heavy bone like an elk shoulder, if you hit an elk close with enough velocity to either work with the weight or over come the resistance of that bone or shear the petals of and reduce the frontal diameter you'll penetrate and all is good. The Berger type bullet if shot in heavy for cal will roll back and lessen in diameter while still penetrating and mushrooming this creates HUGE penetration IF you have enough bullet. The easiest example of this is I've caught copper bullets in a steel plate literally half way through and next to it were little drill holes from Berger's and Matrix bullets, the copper bullets could not penetrate the steel the soft bullets we're blowing through. There is a tipping point for everything. The Hammers are a combination IMO, the best of both worlds, you get a bullet that will get out of it's own way to speak so it had the huge penetration but that also creates the wound channel and collateral damage of a more frangibles bullet. </p><p>Barnes lighter faster concept completely falls apart on real big game IMO, they are making heavier bullets but then you have too little of twist rate to keep them on track in the animal.</p><p>Of course this is all a mute point on deer which you can kill with pretty much anything you load.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bigngreen, post: 1357202, member: 13632"] There is a breaking point with penetration on heavy bone like an elk shoulder, if you hit an elk close with enough velocity to either work with the weight or over come the resistance of that bone or shear the petals of and reduce the frontal diameter you'll penetrate and all is good. The Berger type bullet if shot in heavy for cal will roll back and lessen in diameter while still penetrating and mushrooming this creates HUGE penetration IF you have enough bullet. The easiest example of this is I've caught copper bullets in a steel plate literally half way through and next to it were little drill holes from Berger's and Matrix bullets, the copper bullets could not penetrate the steel the soft bullets we're blowing through. There is a tipping point for everything. The Hammers are a combination IMO, the best of both worlds, you get a bullet that will get out of it's own way to speak so it had the huge penetration but that also creates the wound channel and collateral damage of a more frangibles bullet. Barnes lighter faster concept completely falls apart on real big game IMO, they are making heavier bullets but then you have too little of twist rate to keep them on track in the animal. Of course this is all a mute point on deer which you can kill with pretty much anything you load. [/QUOTE]
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