Berger more than doubles it bullet making capacity

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by AZShooter, Jan 20, 2014.

  1. AZShooter

    AZShooter Well-Known Member

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  2. Erik Kiser

    Erik Kiser Well-Known Member

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    I often wonder why in the world manufacturers in the firearms industry don't vastly increase production capacity. Great move on Berger
     

  3. FEENIX

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    Sweet! Thanks for the update.
     
  4. ilscungilli

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    Indeed. I haven't seen .22 LR on the shelves for over a year, not to mention powder or brass. I've never seen an industry that leaves so much money on the table, as the ammo makers. Sure they have their excuses, but can you imagine if Apple, Dell, or any phone maker couldn't make enough product. They would find ways to increase production to meet demand, and do it in a flexible manner.

    I'm switching over the Bergers for all my rifles. I simply can't rely on Sierra and Nosler to produce bullets in a timely fashion. Hornady seems a little better, so I'll probably keep flinging their 53 gr. Vmax.
     
  5. cowboy

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    They is a lot of difference between Apple, Dell, phone makers and Berger.
    The first 3 outsource their production to other companies overseas and Berger does their own manufacturing in house in the U.S.. I dread the day that bullet manf. send their manufacturing overseas to 2nd and 3rd parties..
     
  6. ilscungilli

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    Right about now, I would love to find some Wolf MT for my .22. Personally, I wouldn't care if they did outsource, if its a choice between shooting or not. Afterall, Lapua/Norma makes some of the best brass around, and many of the powder companies are overseas as well.

    They need to develop more flexible means of meeting demand. How they do that is their business, but the lack of ammo/components on the shelf has been absurd.
     
  7. Dosh

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    I don't buy components online. Will not pay shipping on top of jacked up prices. I wait until they are on the shelves locally to keep my local shops in business. Found Bergers locally for all my caliber needs except the hybrid I wanted to try two weeks ago. Enough powder to last from several shops also. However, many of the reloaders I know are like Ilscungilli switching to non-Berger bullets that are on the shelves now. Hope many of the members recall these shortages when time comes to vote for new national representation. I WILL!
     
  8. MudRunner2005

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    Awesome! That's good news!

    Maybe next they'll make my 130gr Hybrid .257 caliber LR high-BC bullets.......I hope!
     
  9. azsugarbear

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    Expanding production is capital intensive. It takes years to pay off the debt, so as a mfg. you need to make certain that the increased demand is long term - and not a bubble that will burst once everyone catches up. Demand usually increases slowly, panic buying strips the shelves in short order. Either way, I applaud Berger for preparing for the long term future of our sport.
     
  10. haffyti839

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    Bout year plus ago atk (cci) was making 2 million rounds of ammo a day of .22 lr and were two years behind..
     
  11. mrb1982

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    I seem to have been able to find bullets online through the help of others on here notifying others or jockeying bullets back and forth. Seems a guy can pick up brass from people on this sight so far, and I have gotten lucky and picked up some powder when I get lucky. Primers are whats killing me right now. I can find a few different ones, but I shoot 215m's in my 7RM and I haven't been able to find them locally for so long I can't even remember. Hopefully some of this stuff gets caught up one of these days but who knows.

    Great move by berger! It alleviates fearnof not being able to get bullets from them. Hopefully some of these other companies can follow suit
     
  12. Yotechaser

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    Maybe they should put another 10 of those machines to work. Maybe then they might be able to get their stock to the shelves.
     
  13. Kennibear

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    Makers fear a large capital investment for a short term surge in demand. Berger has just released their first Reloading Manual so people who shy away from bullets with limited data are buying their prsduct now.

    Most makers have ramped up their production with three shifts,24/6 prbeoduction scheduling. God bless them but it is going to be awhile before they realize how many people have discovered reloading. Dies and presses have been sold out but not to those of us who already reload. I buy a die set at the same time I buy a new gun in a new caliber. But you and I know from posts on this site that many more people have started reloading as they have asked for basic help. I am greatly encouraged as it shows their serious commitment to pursue reloading. They are long term reloaders just starting out.

    I find a lot of newbies at the local shops trying put together available components with loading data. I have a once a month startup help session for guys interested in reloading from my church. We oldtimers should do this because the larger the market the better our choices will be. Maybe then Hornady will put out a decent 375 Amax (covered in another thread). Berger is betting on this trend and I am supporting them by starting to use their 308 210's. God bless Berger!!!

    "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition...."

    KB